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Death Penalty; yes or no
Topic Started: Mar 16 2005, 10:57 PM (1,055 Views)
Stephen
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For people like Scott, I make an exception and favor it. I favor it under certain circumstances such as people who murdered x amount of people and have no chance of parol.
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Elius
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I agree with Ralph Nader that the Death Penalty should be outlawed. After all, the Death Penalty is simply barbaric. We must rise to a higher level of civility and put an end to all such barbaric acts. The future mustn't be made through meaningless violence.
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Elius
March 17, 2005 09:00 PM
I agree with Ralph Nader that the Death Penalty should be outlawed. After all, the Death Penalty is simply barbaric. We must rise to a higher level of civility and put an end to all such barbaric acts. The future mustn't be made through meaningless violence.

Although i don't particularly agree with the Death Penalty in all cases, I don't see how it can be described as Meaningless. :rolleyes:
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Pennywise
March 18, 2005 02:02 AM
Elius
March 17, 2005 09:00 PM
I agree with Ralph Nader that the Death Penalty should be outlawed.  After all, the Death Penalty is simply barbaric.  We must rise to a higher level of civility and put an end to all such barbaric acts.  The future mustn't be made through meaningless violence.

Although i don't particularly agree with the Death Penalty in all cases, I don't see how it can be described as Meaningless. :rolleyes:

Perhaps not meaningless, rather more hypocritical. But what do you expect, it's capitalism. :/
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Elius
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OcelotJay
March 17, 2005 09:03 PM
Pennywise
March 18, 2005 02:02 AM
Elius
March 17, 2005 09:00 PM
I agree with Ralph Nader that the Death Penalty should be outlawed.  After all, the Death Penalty is simply barbaric.  We must rise to a higher level of civility and put an end to all such barbaric acts.  The future mustn't be made through meaningless violence.

Although i don't particularly agree with the Death Penalty in all cases, I don't see how it can be described as Meaningless. :rolleyes:

Perhaps not meaningless, rather more hypocritical. But what do you expect, it's capitalism. :/

Perhaps I chose my wording a bit poorly. The death penalty punishes by adding to the total of the dead. It's rather ironic - especially when there is no way to know if the court was actually right. Some people even confess to crimes they didn't commit. In that sense, it can be described as meaningless.
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It would make more sense to keep them alive. If you ask me, being locked away for 80 years is much worse than dying.
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March 17, 2005 09:10 PM
It would make more sense to keep them alive. If you ask me, being locked away for 80 years is much worse than dying.

As i've said before, Prison is a lot more comfortable than it used to be. :/

In certain cases, It can barely be described as Punishment at all.
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March 17, 2005 09:10 PM
It would make more sense to keep them alive. If you ask me, being locked away for 80 years is much worse than dying.

That's one of my points, since there are those who would rather die. Although, it seems as if the people as a whole do not recognize that flaw in the death penalty.
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Pennywise
March 18, 2005 02:12 AM
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March 17, 2005 09:10 PM
It would make more sense to keep them alive.  If you ask me, being locked away for 80 years is much worse than dying.

As i've said before, Prison is a lot more comfortable than it used to be. :/

Meh, I'd rather my ex rotted in prison than be free or even die, death is a release, one which no one who has done any heinous crime deserves. Comfortable or not, at least they are not walking the streets nor are they getting off lightly with a quick zap or injection.
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March 17, 2005 09:16 PM
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March 18, 2005 02:12 AM
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March 17, 2005 09:10 PM
It would make more sense to keep them alive.  If you ask me, being locked away for 80 years is much worse than dying.

As i've said before, Prison is a lot more comfortable than it used to be. :/

Meh, I'd rather my ex rotted in prison than be free or even die, death is a release, one which no one who has done any heinous crime deserves. Comfortable or not, at least they are not walking the streets nor are they getting off lightly with a quick zap or injection.

True.

Although, In a lot of Countries, People get out in 15-40 years.

I think if the Death Penalty is outlawed, It should be enforced worldwide, That if you're convicted of Murder or Multiple Counts of Rape or Child abuse, You should be put in Prison until the day you die, With no exceptions.
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March 17, 2005 09:19 PM
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March 17, 2005 09:16 PM
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March 18, 2005 02:12 AM
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March 17, 2005 09:10 PM
It would make more sense to keep them alive.  If you ask me, being locked away for 80 years is much worse than dying.

As i've said before, Prison is a lot more comfortable than it used to be. :/

Meh, I'd rather my ex rotted in prison than be free or even die, death is a release, one which no one who has done any heinous crime deserves. Comfortable or not, at least they are not walking the streets nor are they getting off lightly with a quick zap or injection.

True.

Although, In a lot of Countries, People get out in 15-40 years.

I think if the Death Penalty is outlawed, It should be enforced worldwide, That if you're convicted of Murder or Multiple Counts of Rape or Child abuse, You should be put in Prison until the day you die, With no exceptions.

But still, there are those who are framed. It's the people who have been convicted injustly that you have to feel sorry for. Unfortunately, you have no way to know which ones those are.
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Elius
March 18, 2005 02:22 AM
But still, there are those who are framed. It's the people who have been convicted injustly that you have to feel sorry for. Unfortunately, you have no way to know which ones those are.

True. Though lie detector tests seem an obvious answer, you need serious training in order to defy one of those. :/

But I agree with Penny's thoughts whole heartedly. Let them rot.
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I don't support it for the reasons already stated.

Just stick them in a cell secluded from others serving their time and let them live there for the rest of their life. Or throw them in a dark pit with no windows, where they don't get to 'play' with the other killers, rapists, and abusers. That would be nice. :yes:

To me it's a worse punishment to let them live rather than kill them off. But not only that, do we need to be a killing society? What good is that doing telling society 'killing is wrong' and then we turn around and send a criminal to the death penalty?
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March 17, 2005 02:47 PM
i voted yes cos i think child killers/abusers prison is to good for i fink they shud not be allowed to live there animals

First off, it annoys me to no end when people compare "uncivilized" people to animals. Humans ARE animals; dont let your arrogance go to your head. :@ .

Secondly, since when in the hell have two wrongs ever made a right in history? This solves absolutely nothing at all; it just goes back to the kindergarten concept of "Well, he hit me first!" It's totally stupid, in my views. The death penalty is immoral, and accomplishes nothing at all.

I recall someone saying once: "But how can we live in a society where killers are alive?"

HACK HACK COUGH COUGH WHEEZE NUDGE WINK VOMIT SCREAM

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Also, anyone who enforces the death penalty deserves to be killed too, I guess, according to your moral codes, since taking a life is worthy of losing your own. If killers need to be killed, why does murdering someone right back make you any better? Because they did it first, right? Stright-up, A class mullet.

Oh, and another fun fact? The U.S. is one of the only five countries on Earth that executes kids under the age of 18. Yup, we're right up there with Iran and Iraq, witch you guys are talking about so much in your arguments. News flash: we aren't any better than them when it comes to this.


Tone down your language a little please

EDIT: Sorry...I get angry with syuff like this.
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Who the hell we are to decide about. After all he's killing his wife and unborn child means he is killing himself. God will decide..

Justice for all
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