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| the 'n' word; just a thought.. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 4 2006, 06:47 AM (874 Views) | |
| Black Angel | Jan 4 2006, 06:47 AM Post #1 |
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you know i've been thinking, that if blacks all over the world intelligently replied to the person who called them that, and just shrugged it off before walking away, then that word would lose its power.. personally, i hate the word, but the one time i was called that, i responded, "you know, i am not going to give you the pleasure by acknowledging that insult, because the truth is, some part of you is so threatened by me, that you feel the need to make yourself feel better by trying to hurt me.. if you ask me, that makes you the n*****.." my point is, words like these have power because we give them that power.. even though, the topic refers to the 'n' word, i think that my point applies to all racist/prejudiced remarks.. what do you think? B) |
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| Rory | Jan 4 2006, 06:56 AM Post #2 |
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I think in part that is true, however i feel that that phrase is being used less and less as a derogatory term (in my extremely limited experience, i must add). Whilst i'm not saying it is used rarely, i just think that it is used far less regularly than it was maybe 50 years ago. People are finally starting to break down prejudices that in the past have caused so much conflict, and with each generation the racial barriers are being watered down. Obviously thats not to say that in some areas racism isn't a huge problem, because we still encounter racism far too much and certain groups are targeted more than others due to recent world events. |
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| Black Angel | Jan 4 2006, 07:05 AM Post #3 |
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that was one of my main concerns after 9/11, it seems that everyone seems suspicious of muslims and people of middle eastern dissent.. nevermind the fact that there very well may be a plethora of other groups who hate the u.s. just as much as those terrorists did.. however it seems that those who are quick to suspect these people, are blind to the fact that they are creating an opportunity for these other groups to make their move.. B) |
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| Aaron | Jan 4 2006, 05:03 PM Post #4 |
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Ok here is something that bugs me about the "N" word black people can use it all they want but once some one esle does *Gasp* they become a rasist -_- I mean come on there was this one time where the black kid was litery forcing the other kid to say it and the teacher freaked out once the kid said it (after a good time at saying no allmost all the time -_-) Ok I know this does not apply to all but you want equilty you should be treated the same for using that word but also equilty can be taken as telling a kid in a wheel chair he needs to walk up stairs to get some where....
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| Quality Poster | Jan 4 2006, 05:09 PM Post #5 |
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I don't counter racism much at all anymore. My generation doesn't have much of it, and I agree that with each generation it will be less and less. The barriers are breaking down, and if anything I respect them even more for what Ive read in history books about Chinese, Blacks, etc. What I must agree with is that after 9/11, I have become racist towards Muslims. I will admit, I instantly assume them to be a HORRIBLE race without even realizing it. I catch myself sometimes, but I have no trust around them so ever. I would never cause harm to them, but 9/11 made me hate their race. BTW: The 'n' word is RARELY used as a bad word anymore...its kinda turned into like...kid or boy or something. "Yo, kid listen to this...." "Yo, 'n' listen to this...." Me, being white, I kind of take offense to the 'n' word even though Im not black...odd, eh? |
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| Rory | Jan 4 2006, 05:10 PM Post #6 |
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To be honest, i think it is because there are two different meanings (and spellings) of the term. One is racist, one means (loosely) brother [correct me if i'm wrong]. They are spelt differently (from my experience) and whilst overuse has perhaps led to people believing that they are the same, hence people are "bringing it upon themselves" to have such prejudice, i do personally feel a difference to the two phrases, and the latter phrase does not bother me. |
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| Quality Poster | Jan 4 2006, 05:13 PM Post #7 |
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Yeah, you can usually tell hows its meant to be used as. It can be used as a derogatory term or a friendly term... I was watching Oprah once (pathetic, I agree) and there was some guy on there that said. "A black person is no different from a white person, except for the tone of their skin. A 'n' is those of the african american race who wear the baggy clothes, the gangsta language, and the drugs/etc." I agreed with his comment in a way. |
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| Aaron | Jan 4 2006, 05:13 PM Post #8 |
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Rory Eh theres the real 18th cenetry one with the g then theres Negro (which was the old way of saying "Black") then theres the Ebonics version with zs in it thats all I know. |
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| Black Angel | Jan 4 2006, 06:22 PM Post #9 |
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Honestly that double-standard ticks me off just as much.. i read some where that some blacks are hypocritical.. in that they refer to their own as brothers and sisters.. which i dont think is right.. religion aside, if evolution is how we all came to be, then doesnt that mean in some way, we are all somehow related? what i don't understand is how some do everything to seperate themselves from the rest of the people.. whether it is the clothing, or the attitude, or how they interact with others.. but then say on the other hand, that they are still seperated.. I am not saying that all blacks do this, and nor am i saying that discrimination doesn't exist.. Mind you, i am not speaking against my race, these are thoughts that are in my head..
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| Loona | Jan 4 2006, 06:24 PM Post #10 |
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The more the word is restricted, the more powerful it becomes. It wasn't even a word of hate originally, but correct me if I'm wrong. I guess now it is though, so with everyone making it such a restriction it's become more powerful than it needs to be. People use it to get black people angry, like what happened to you Black Angel, and you just turned the tables which I think is great. I think an intelligent response is a great way to react instead of letting it get to you, because afterall, that's what the person saying it is trying to get. I guess intelligent responses would probably help a great deal, but as long as black people are still using it negatively too, it will still carry power. |
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| Quality Poster | Jan 4 2006, 08:25 PM Post #11 |
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Yeah, but I hate it when black people say the 'n' word all the time to eachother and then when someone else says it they get all mad and are like "Your not black you can't say that". That only applies to some black people though. But, they can go around saying White Trash and cracker and no one seems to care. Those are like black people in my school. I like the inteligent black people, who dont act like ignorant fools. (Same applies to white people lol. I like inteligent white people ^^) |
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| Sapp. | Jan 4 2006, 08:35 PM Post #12 |
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I have nothing against african americans, I mean, one of my best friends is 'black'. But him and his other black friends, will walk into a room, and see each other and automatically go 'Hey my nigga' I'm like O.O, my black friends say that it is okay to say 'nigga', white people and black people, just not 'ni**er'. (I didn't scensor 'nigga' because I've heard it is okay to say, and it is not exactly the racist term, sorry if it is considered racist, even though I have no intention of it being.) I find it... a bit... wierd. :blink: I don't know. *lol. I don't use the term, not even he one with an a, just feels like I'm being racist, and I don't want to be that way. |
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| Black Angel | Jan 4 2006, 08:51 PM Post #13 |
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i don't use the ****a term.. if i am saying 'hey' to a friend, (who is a guy) then i'll say hey 'dude..' or 'bro' and if that friend is a girl then i'll say 'girlie' or 'chica' or 'sis' <= although, 'bro' and 'sis' are reserved for my best-friends, who i have known for a long time.. and consider them as an extension of my family... it really doesnt matter whether white, black, asian or hispanic.. and they reciprocate that term.. i have no problems with that, and neither do they.. i much like you, hate that double-standard surrounding that word.. i think that one of the reasons that some blacks don't like it when other groups use that word to them or around them, is because it seperates them from everybody else.. if everybody said hey ****a to everyone else then there would be one less thing to seperate them.. i think that is stupid.. really.. B) |
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| DTimbrell | Jan 4 2006, 11:39 PM Post #14 |
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A brother from another mother B) I totally disagree with racism. Why abuse them because of their colour? I was writing some lyrics the other day, and 2 lines of it were
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| Hammerlock Jones | Jan 5 2006, 07:39 AM Post #15 |
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My dad said it all the time. Actually, his entire side of the family uses the word. A lot. He called me that (and his other kids) as a term of endearment. It was almost a badge of honor. As in, if we did something funny or tried to pull his leg he'd say "N***, please!" Things like that. As for the double standard.... I dunno. I can see people getting mad about it. But the word is almost a code word members of our "secret Society" or club can use, but outsiders can't. I have no problem with one of my black friends or a family member ( a black family member....not a choctaw) calling me that....anybody else and :@ I'm sure there are terms non-blacks use amongst themselves that are okay in their group, that would be perceived as insulting if a non-whatever they are said the same. I know there are terms many native people's use freely that would get your butt kicked if you said it and weren't native. |
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but also equilty can be taken as telling a kid in a wheel chair he needs to walk up stairs to get some where....

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