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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 19 2007, 08:45 PM (1,583 Views) | |
| wolfknight69 | Jan 19 2007, 08:45 PM Post #1 |
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Well is there a heaven or hell. Please tell me. |
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| blade-slinger | Jan 19 2007, 09:08 PM Post #2 |
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I don't believe so. |
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| cvn-tv-dip | Jan 19 2007, 09:15 PM Post #3 |
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Why must there be continuous stream of topics that push me around... This is Java Hut, suited for serious discussions and debates. It's not a place to simply state each person's viewpoint and let the topic end in a stalemate, but a place where you attempt to listen to others' viewpoints in order to explain yours properly. Why would you ask this question, anyway? What kind of results and answers do you expect from this topic? What do you believe in? |
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| Ben | Jan 19 2007, 09:15 PM Post #4 |
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Quantum-locked when observed.
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You act like you expect a definitive answer. ![]() Well, to answer your question, yes, there is a Hell. Heaven doesn't exist though. It used to exist, but then its function was outsourced and lost during a bidding war.
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| wolfknight69 | Jan 19 2007, 09:30 PM Post #5 |
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LOl i just clicked on your link i live in michigan |
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| Justin-ZNS | Jan 19 2007, 09:33 PM Post #6 |
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Well, now we know where to go for contractors.
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| ralahinn1 | Jan 19 2007, 10:37 PM Post #7 |
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I believe in both a heaven and a hell. Hell, I know alot about :blink: I have seen earthly forms of it, and I can tell you I know that the things I have seen/been through arent even one 10th of a 10th of what actually goes on in hell. as for heaven, I know that is real too. Once you sample what Hell could be like, you know heaven is real too. I can only go by what I know. On earth we can only learn of what both heaven and hell are like by what we experience. I guess going to the standard"read the bible" is a start. Heaven and hell both are going to be truely what we make of it though, because the part of us inside, our soul, lives forever, even when we don't have a physical body for a while. As you get older, you will experience many times doubting if there is a heaven or hell, doubting if there is even a God.I know because I have at times. I've also been in some situations where I know that if there wasn't a God, I would have had a far worse life than I do now. A good example of knowing that God is there, is the fact that last year, I was living on the street :blink: this year, I'm in a mansion that was built in the 1800's and is beautifully restored. I feel I am here because God is watching over me and guiding me to where I should go. when I do "right" he lets me go to the next place I'm"suppose" to be. when I do "wrong" I end up in a bad place. :-/ I don't know what started me on this part of my journey. 6 years ago, I had a great life , then I kept"losing" things. It would be too long to list everything I lost, and I know it was nothing I did personally. Everything I lost I always thought, that was it, I couldn't lose anything more. Yet there was a time even that I wasn't "allowed" to see the stars at night. though through my losing, I lost alot more"precious" things...not material . Some things I have gotten back, some I will never get back. I know there is a heaven and hell, because through the bible, God says it's there. I believe I'll be there one day(my main job is to try to maintain myself enough so I don't try to take myself out before its time though )
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| Pete B | Jan 20 2007, 11:17 AM Post #8 |
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Until someone shows me some evidence, no... |
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| Aaron | Jan 20 2007, 12:27 PM Post #9 |
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A blast from the past.
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Moved to Community Chat Also Ben is wrong.... There is a Heaven, heaven is suppose to be a Paradise and there is a Paradise
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| JosephY | Jan 20 2007, 12:29 PM Post #10 |
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agreed |
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| elseb | Jan 20 2007, 02:28 PM Post #11 |
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Nobody trully knows...you can only believe... I am not a believer in heaven and hell though |
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| Found | Jan 20 2007, 02:33 PM Post #12 |
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I agree... i want to get some evidence...I'm not beliving that there is a land in air.
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| Vaminos | Jan 20 2007, 08:43 PM Post #13 |
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"There is most certainly....a hell. and you'll all go there when you die." - Adrian (From the movie, Little Nicky). I absolutely believe that statement even though its a movie lol I know for sure there is a hell. 1) Devils Tower - Located in Wyoming (where I am originally from )2) Devils Golf Course - Located in Death Valley Somewhere lol) 3) Devils Kitchen - Canyon outside of Grand Junction, CO 4) Devils Chair - Located outside of Greybull, WY 5) Devils Canyon - technical canyon trip located east of the town of Superior, AZ near Oak Flat 6) Devils Sink - Florida lol 7) Devils Bedroom - Ontario County Though, I'm sure there are numerous sites referring to the lord of darkness himself, I have yet to see him... I wonder if he is registered here on IF
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| OcelotJay | Jan 20 2007, 09:01 PM Post #14 |
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<3 mine [big]Miaow[/big]
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Interesting. Both Satan and God have put their stamps on it; clearly that's where I should holiday next year.
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| Postulate-ZNS | Jan 20 2007, 09:16 PM Post #15 |
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I am, therefore I think: Descartes can shove it
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The concept of hell and heaven have evolved past their forms of physical entities into pseudo-spiritual metaphors intentionally so vague that no one will ever be able to define them or their meanings, at least not on more that an individual basis. That being said, whether or not the concept of an unending torment exists is a resounding yes from my eyes; the human mind has the power to conjure all manner of abhorrent delusions that place the soul in an eternal deluge. Death is what you make of it, and whether or not you believe in God, you will find yourself in your very own heaven and/or hell.
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It used to exist, but then its function was outsourced and lost during a bidding war.

, then I kept"losing" things. It would be too long to list everything I lost, and I know it was nothing I did personally. Everything I lost I always thought, that was it, I couldn't lose anything more. Yet there was a time even that I wasn't "allowed" to see the stars at night. though through my losing, I lost alot more"precious" things...not material
. Some things I have gotten back, some I will never get back. I know there is a heaven and hell, because through the bible, God says it's there. I believe I'll be there one day(my main job is to try to maintain myself enough so I don't try to take myself out before its time though 

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