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Excessive profanity?
Topic Started: Mar 16 2007, 07:56 PM (1,847 Views)
cvn-tv-dip
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I would suggest that you and your members avoid the bottom:

1) Excessive profanity; using it so much on a regular basis, or on a post, that it is simply unnecessary (not needed to get a point across) and offensive
2) MISuse/abuse of profanity, curse words, etc.
3) Bypassing filters, which are placed there for a reason (they are there so that people can express themselves without hurting others)
4) Derogatory terms that are aimed specifically at putting people down
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Icehawk
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I have had a few of my members bypass the filters, If you have been on IRC when I am online, You would know because I comment on almost any naughty thing a member of mine does. I punish anyone severely who bypasses any bad word that is filtered. I do not tolerate that on my boards.
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Merky
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If a Board's staff swear too much, what's the punishment from IF?
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Nicola
March 16, 2007 08:03 PM
Anything that would make a sentence on a word filtered board look like this

"You're ****** ******* ******** and ********* *********!!!!"

Sorta :P

Definition a la wiki:
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Profanity is a word choice or usage which its audience considers to be offensive. The original meaning of the term was restricted to blasphemy, sacrilege or speaking God's name in vain (profane speech, or swear word), especially expressions such as "God #### it", "go to Hell", and "#### you". The word bloody may belong in this category. They are sometimes made mild, resulting in less recognizable forms, such as the minced oaths.


Basically... when people pepper their sentences with swear words, derogative terms, racism, blasphemy, homophobia...

Excess use of vulgar language, anything mean, crass and plain bad.


I think the guy who started this topic was looking more for a "where does Invisionfree draw the line" type of answer. :/

seiger44
 
Profanity is language and sexually based things, aka pics, talkin nubbish, ect (can't think of the word). It's both, not just language.


No, profanity has nothing to do with pictures, unless there's someone with a hand expression in a profane manner. If the individual who started this topic wanted to know about pictures he would have asked, like anyone with common sense, what is considered pornography rather than profanity. Additionally, not all words considered as profanity have to do with pornography, many of them (and the worse of which) include racial/religious/gender slurs, insults based on sexual preferences, comparing people to animals, and I'm sure there are plenty of other definitions. I also have no idea how you equate "talkin nubbish" with profanity.
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Greeney
March 17, 2007 10:40 PM
I think the guy who started this topic was looking more for a "where does Invisionfree draw the line" type of answer. :/

Oh, apologies, you expect me to list specific words that might be seen as profanity.. phrase... examples? :ermm:

Excessive profanity I should think, is dealt with on a case by case basis. You cannot draw up a specific requirement on what is 'excessive profanity'. Excessive = quantity. Therefore it'd be hard to say how much when it can vary a lot. There is no 'line' to be drawn. It's either excessive or it's not. You can't say "It's 63.4% excessive. The line is 62%, and you've used a certain curse word 103 times per 1000 posts, that is over the limit", that would be insane.

Avoiding profanity is a good way. Since when does a board need to be just under the bar with their excessive profanity? Who needs to swear and curse that much?

:-/
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Well how you said Excessive = Quanity. It would be like if someone copied the F word and just went F as many times as they could in a single post in multiple topics does that equal Quanity?
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Greeney spell my damned name right or don't state anything about me at all -.-*

^Nicoli said i could say that mwahahahahahahahaha
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Merky
March 16, 2007 04:56 PM
In the Terms of Use, "Excessive profanity" is listed as prohibited content. But, it's rather vague, so I'd just like to know what exactly qualifies as "Excessive profanity" and what's the punishment for it? I don't want my board being deleted because I don't have a filter on it. :blink:

I haven't been around that much in 4 months, but from what was the case last time I was around:

You don't have anything to worry about. The rules about boards content(no porn, no language, et cetra) was more "don't have the board theme be about these things." If a bot (or just a mean person) comes to your board and fills it up with porn/profanities you wont be shut down. You might be told to remove the content (or have it removed for you), but you wont be shutdown. Just try and keep language at a PG-13 level.
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cvn-tv-dip
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Use good judgement to see what's "excessive" and what is allowed. The reason why we have human staff members is because we allow judgement calls.

Seifer44
March 17, 2007 04:27 PM
Greeney spell my damned name right or don't state anything about me at all -.-*

^Nicoli said i could say that mwahahahahahahahaha

What Greeney did was correct your statements, not put you down. And Greeney made a reasonable post. I think you're the one being rude here.
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Seifer44
March 17, 2007 08:27 PM
Greeney spell my damned name right or don't state anything about me at all -.-*

^Nicoli said i could say that mwahahahahahahahaha

I am sorry to butt in, but it looks like he isn't the only one who spelled a name wrong either, that's if he did. Sorry for butting in, I am out now. Buhbye.

Just Kidding with you, I gotta have fun here every now and then. :D
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Seifer44
March 17, 2007 07:27 PM
Greeney spell my damned name right or don't state anything about me at all -.-*

^Nicoli said i could say that mwahahahahahahahaha

I didn't state anything about you, I replied to you. God forbid I made a typo, like you did when you spelled "ect" :rolleyes:

Seriously, if you don't have anything important to discuss just refrain from commenting rather than pointing out that someone can make a typo when spelling your name out because you have nothing better to use as some argument in an online discussion.




Nicola
 

Oh, apologies, you expect me to list specific words that might be seen as profanity.. phrase... examples? ermm.gif


Nope, I don't expect anything besides common sense from people, I believe the person who started this topic however wanted to know a more accurate way of how invisionfree defines when the limit is passed from ordinary profanity to excessive profanity.

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Excessive profanity I should think, is dealt with on a case by case basis. You cannot draw up a specific requirement on what is 'excessive profanity'. Excessive = quantity. Therefore it'd be hard to say how much when it can vary a lot. There is no 'line' to be drawn. It's either excessive or it's not. You can't say "It's 63.4% excessive. The line is 62%, and you've used a certain curse word 103 times per 1000 posts, that is over the limit", that would be insane.  Avoiding profanity is a good way.


I agree with you, it's very hard to put into words where the line is, but sometimes people do wonder if they need to edit or delete posts with two or three minor curse words in them, which words will cause invisionfree to be more upset about it if reported, where's the limit of curses before invisionfree will close your forum, will it be okay if I turn a blind eye to a couple posts with the f word, etc...

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Since when does a board need to be just under the bar with their excessive profanity? Who needs to swear and curse that much?


For the sake of discussion, "that much" to you can be "very little" to me, and as Invisionfree implies that profanity is allowed to a small extent (as the rule states excessive profanity) how can the average joe know when it's time to step in and start warning or deleting cursing in their own forum so their forums won't be closed on them?
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Greeney
March 17, 2007 06:13 PM
Seifer44
March 17, 2007 07:27 PM
Greeney spell my damned name right or don't state anything about me at all -.-*

^Nicoli said i could say that mwahahahahahahahaha

I didn't state anything about you, I replied to you. God forbid I made a typo, like you did when you spelled "ect" :rolleyes:

Seriously, if you don't have anything important to discuss just refrain from commenting rather than pointing out that someone can make a typo when spelling your name out because you have nothing better to use as some argument in an online discussion.

Hey, you don't need to be an ass about it and act like your right about everything. If I wanted to carry something on, I'd just rip you till my heart's content. I don't. You do. What I was stating is that if you're going to comment on what another person said, you could at least show some respect and click the quote button next to their post, or spell their name right, or just leave the quote box alone and do the simple copy and paste-ing. Grow up.
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Seifer44
March 17, 2007 05:42 PM
Greeney
March 17, 2007 06:13 PM
Seifer44
March 17, 2007 07:27 PM
Greeney spell my damned name right or don't state anything about me at all -.-*

^Nicoli said i could say that mwahahahahahahahaha

I didn't state anything about you, I replied to you. God forbid I made a typo, like you did when you spelled "ect" :rolleyes:

Seriously, if you don't have anything important to discuss just refrain from commenting rather than pointing out that someone can make a typo when spelling your name out because you have nothing better to use as some argument in an online discussion.

Hey, you don't need to be an ass about it and act like your right about everything. If I wanted to carry something on, I'd just rip you till my heart's content. I don't. You do. What I was stating is that if you're going to comment on what another person said, you could at least show some respect and click the quote button next to their post, or spell their name right, or just leave the quote box alone and do the simple copy and paste-ing. Grow up.

Aren't you going too far?

1) He wasn't acting like he was right. He simply made a statement that corrected yours. If you wish to, you can state what you feel is the proper definition. But just because someone corrected what you said doesn't mean that person was being mean.

2) He doesn't have to use quote button. He can just copy and paste like you asked; maybe he knew your real name, but simply typed one letter incorrectly because F and G are located closely together on the keyboard. Minor spelling mistakes do happen.

So who's the critic here?
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And people wonder why we close so many topics in this forum.

There's a total of 3 or 4 useful posts in this topic. That includes the first post. That does not include this post, because this post should not be necessary.

To summarise for the original poster (and anyone else who is wondering), since the answer has gotten lost amongst the spam in this topic:

Excessive profanity is defined as the overuse of profane language on one's board. The occasional use of profanity is acceptable. We leave it deliberately vague because there is no exact measure we use for "excessive". We are pretty lenient, so unless you have topics where every few words contains swearing, then I think you will be fine.

For anyone whose post in here did not relate to this topic, for shame. You should know better.
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