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| Auron89 | Jul 14 2007, 11:06 AM Post #31 |
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He wants to protect his horcruxes, so why did he try to kill Harry the last three times he has? |
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| Jimi | Jul 14 2007, 11:16 AM Post #32 |
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There may be more to Harry and the Horcruxes than we know right now. |
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| KarateKid | Jul 14 2007, 04:12 PM Post #33 |
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I've been reading the first 6 books repeatedly over the past two months so the story totally sticks in my brain. So if there's some tinchy detail in one of them that becomes a big thing in book 7, I'll remember reading about it. :-/ I'll probably go camp outside ASDA from noon or something so i can be first in the queue and finish the book by dawn. I was 20th in line for HBP... British version of the bok should be 608 pages long, I think. I was totally confident a few weeks back that Harry wouldn't die but now I'm not so sure any more. I'd like for this book to be more of a POA/OOTP kind of book than a HBP-type book. I like POA and OOTP much more than I liked HBP. It felt too cold and didn't have the fuzzy zing in it.
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| IceMetalPunk | Jul 15 2007, 02:27 AM Post #34 |
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We are all IMPerfect. Be proud!
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Probably. JKR does that a lot, doesn't she? The mark of a great author ![]() I always thought JK should end the series with something similar to this:
Meh, it sounded better in my head .Anyway, the prophecy said something to the effect that either Harry dies or Voldermort dies. They can't both live, and they can't both die. Looking at JK's writing style (and how she once said "every book needs a death" when she killed off Sirius), I doubt it will be a classic "And they all lived happily ever after. THE END." Maybe Harry will kill Voldermort, but soon after a Death Eater (maybe Snape?) will kill Harry and use his blood, bone, etc. to bring Voldermort back. Anyway, I think I'm getting it soon after it comes out, but I'm not pre-ordering it. That seems useless to me. -IMP
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| Auron89 | Jul 15 2007, 02:56 AM Post #35 |
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Or:
A terrible ending! |
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| IceMetalPunk | Jul 15 2007, 03:06 AM Post #36 |
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We are all IMPerfect. Be proud!
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Oh, man, my middle school Language Arts teacher would go insane if she read that. I once tried an ending like that (actually, exactly like that, as in the "He woke up and it was all a dream" scenario) and she failed the paper...-IMP
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| Rory | Jul 15 2007, 05:59 AM Post #37 |
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Hehe, so I changed my delivery address as Auron suggested (luckily I didn't even need to cancel the order, with Amazon you can just update your shipping address)The thing is, i've got to spend that Saturday packing up my room as i'm moving out the week after (i have too much stuff for one car journey :|) so that cuts down on the amount of time i can spend reading it. I think i can do a pretty decent job of avoiding the ending before the people who will blast through the book and possibly post spoilers do. (I'm hoping people will have enough decency not to post spoilers - it will make it very hard for us moderators to do our job if we have to check out things like that!) |
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| Auron89 | Jul 15 2007, 06:25 AM Post #38 |
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The Guardian website has published the apparent first paragraph or so in The Deathly Hallows. I should stress that the following link contains spoilers: You'll need to scroll down a little to find it. It's only 60 or so words. edit: SPOILER ALERT[/color] http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/sto...2126717,00.html It can't be marked official, obviously. The Guardian is taking a bit of a chance printing that if it is taken from the actual book. I suppose it isn't really a spoiler as such, since you'll be reading that when you get the book in a week's time, or at least you 'could be' reading that. |
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| LABaller | Jul 15 2007, 09:38 AM Post #39 |
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I just re-read HBP. I can honestly say that I'll toss my book in the trash if Harry Potter ends up as a horcrux. I refuse to believe that. But on the other hand, who's convinced that Snape is evil? :ph34r: |
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| Auron89 | Jul 15 2007, 09:51 AM Post #40 |
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Snape is a hard one. You get bits where you're a hundred percent sure he's good, but then you get your doubts. In saying that I definitely don't think he's evil or working for Voldemort. I think he's either with Dumbledore or out for himself and only himself. One thing is for sure, and that's that he is without doubt very powerful indeed. He's outsmarted at least one of the two most powerful wizards of their age and is obviously a threat to the other Death Eaters (and even Greyback). I also think Harry is a little naive, especially if he thinks he can take on Snape in a serious duel and actually come out not dead. Snape is my favourite character though, so maybe I'm bias. :ph34r: |
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| LABaller | Jul 15 2007, 10:11 AM Post #41 |
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I agree. Snape is a really awesome character. It's a toss up for me whether he's good or bad. I was absolutely convinced he was at the moment he killed Dumbledore. He had Dumbledore on his knees, pleading for his life. However, afterwards, he refuses to kill Harry, saying he is for Voldemort. When Harry is chasing after him, he gives him advice, telling him to learn to use non verbal spells. And again, when Harry calls him a coward while he's chasing, Snape explodes and messes Harry up (for lack of better terms). That leads me to believe Snape probably just did the most brave thing he'll ever do. Not the act of killing Dumbledore itself, but what those actions will lead to. Dumbledore took Snape in when nobody else would believe that he was truly sorry for what he had done while working for Voldemort. I think it hurt him the most when he killed Dumbledore. Overall, I think his act of killing Dumbledore will make Snape exalted above all of the other Death Eaters, and Voldemort will trust him with everything. With this, Snape will be able to aid Harry and everyone else, whether it be directly or indirectly (most likely indirectly), and his main goal will be to kill Voldemort. I absolutely do not believe that killing Dumbledore was planned at all, though. I think Snape had a difference of opinions, and decided that killing Dumbledore will be what is best to kill Voldemort in the end. So he's willing to kill anyone that it takes so that Voldemort can be killed. Meaning he's slightly more good than evil, but he has purely self interest at heart. I mean, who wants to be at Voldemort's mercy for the rest of their lives? Snape's life was given to Voldemort the day he became a Death Eater. I highly doubt he wants to work for Voldemort the rest of his life. I'm convinced that he truly did want to stop working for Voldemort when he went to Dumbledore to work at Hogwarts. But he must have known that Dumbledore was getting old, and his protection was coming to an end. So he needed a plan that would end in Voldemort's demise, meaning he has self interest at heart, and only self interest at heart. All speculation and theory though
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| Auron89 | Jul 15 2007, 11:20 AM Post #42 |
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I agree in some respects. I think Snape is far too intelligent in both general and magical senses to think that working for Voldemort is something that will best suit him. I mean, if you think about it, who would truly want to work for Voldemort? Those who do are either scared or simply not very sane (i.e., Bellatrix). So expanding on my comment about Snape being in it for only himself, I think he may have played Dumbledore somewhat while both still aiming for the same goal - destroying Voldemort. That, or Snape truly is working for Dumbledore. A theory that suggests he is could be his silent love for Lily. If Snape really did love her, I seriously doubt he'd still want to bat for her murderer's side. Also, I don't think Dumbledore was pleading for his life, but rather was pleading for Snape to kill him. He did say that death was the next great adventure. "After all, to the well-organised mind, death is but the next great adventure". You could argue that his mind wasn't "well-organised" when he was begging for his life, I suppose...
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| LABaller | Jul 15 2007, 11:28 AM Post #43 |
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Wow, didn't see it that way. I guess Rowling did a good job of making sure you automatically assumed Dumbledore was pleading for his life. I remember him saying, "Severus, please," and the fact he was incredibly weak and surrounded by Death Eaters, as well as being unarmed, just sold the rest. I think him working for Dumbledore is also a pretty strong possibility. |
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| acdcman | Jul 15 2007, 11:35 AM Post #44 |
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I totally agree with you guys. My brother actually said a few days ago that he though Dumbledore and Snape planned it to have Snape kill him. That way, when he was back in Voldy's "inner circle" so to speak, he would be able to have a chance at killing Voldemort. But I also think that Snape will be killed by Voldy when he attempts to kill him. If the prophecy is true, then Harry or Voldy has to die at the hands of the other. I don't really believe that Snape is truely evil, but Jo definately did an amazing job of making us think that. I also never considered the fact that he may of been pleading for his life. That's definately a possibility. |
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| Auron89 | Jul 15 2007, 11:50 AM Post #45 |
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I actually think Snape might be killed too. J.K. Rowling did say a lot of character were going to die. I think McGonagall and Hagrid, and a lot of the Death Eaters are prime targets. |
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Oh, man, my middle school Language Arts teacher would go insane if she read that. I once tried an ending like that (actually, exactly like that, as in the "He woke up and it was all a dream" scenario) and she failed the paper...
(luckily I didn't even need to cancel the order, with Amazon you can just update your shipping address)
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