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What are your religious views and why
Topic Started: Nov 5 2004, 12:55 AM (3,341 Views)
demona
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I am a wiccan. You can call me a witch if you would prefer. I follow the path that i feel that suits my life the best. I am a lover of nature. I feel as if the elements (earth,air,fire, and water) speak to me on a daily basis.

I can tell that there are spirts all around. The goddeaa makes us feel welcome.
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I'm jealous, you have voices inside your head, and I don't!

.. I'm no religion, I sorta have my own beliefs, and what's with all this religious stuff all the sudden?
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Short of it: Active Agnostic Atheist

Long explanation taken from my school journal thing (we were learning about agnosticism and skepticism)

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Agnosticism
Silly me, I have been considering myself an agnostic for several years now and I always thought I understood what it meant.  Well upon reading "Forbidden Knowledge" by Roger Shattuck I learned otherwise, it went into the history of the word as created by Huxley and it prompted me to research my beliefs, or lack there of, a bit more before labeling myself agnostic.

I've always known that the roots of the word come roughly to "without knowledge," and I realized that many agnostics considered it impossible to know if a god, many gods, etc. existed.  I didn't however quite grasp that it implied they believe you can never know the truth, which is where I disagree.  I simply felt that it described someone who would not believe in a supernatural being, nor entirely deny the possibility of one existing, until there was tangible evidence to support the belief/disbelief.  When discussing the subject with my former Socio-Cultural Anthropology teacher we often termed ourselves "Active Agnostics" in that we were constantly looking into other cultures and new ideas to seek out that tangible evidence and explore traditions outside our own culture(s).  I was content with this until I read Huxley's own concept of the word, considering he is essentially the creator of the word, which lead me to research just what I would be considered under my beliefs.

I never felt quite right labeling myself atheist as it somehow feels as if I'm claiming I could disprove the existence of God here and now, which I'm just not quite confident enough to do at the moment.  However I do believe it is quite likely we [humans] will eventually be able to disprove (or prove though I lean towards atheism personally) the existence of such supernatural beings as God.  I don't know that it will be in my life span, though as I've stated in previous entries I believe there is one truth and given time I believe it will be uncovered. 

Food for thought:

Atheist - One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
Gnostic - Of, relating to, or possessing intellectual or spiritual knowledge.
Agnostic - One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.  Also, the lack of Gnostic knowledge.

I find I am none of the above alone, but rather a combination of Agnosticism and Atheism.  I read an insightful essay on the subject: Atheism vs. Agnosticism: The difference between the two.  It suggests that you can be a gnostic or agnostic theist or atheist.  If you claim to be a gnostic theist you believe without question that there is a god, whereas a gnostic atheist believes there is logical proof against the existence of god(s).  Then there are agnostic theists who maintains a belief in god, but admit they do not feel there is evidence to prove such an existence, much the same there are agnostic atheists who disbelieve in god but cannot prove it.  I feel I fall into this last group, though still not entirely.  It doesn't really comment on whether an agnostic atheist believes you may be able to disprove god's existence at some point in time, just that at the present time you lack the gnostic knowledge to prove your beliefs.  To fix this, I am just going to consider myself an active agnostic atheist, suggesting that while I don't believe in any god figure I admit I cannot prove such a belief without a doubt at the current time, but I am and will always be looking for such proof as I believe it will be available in future days when I will consider myself a gnostic atheist.


Long I know I apologize o.O
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I'm not really sure. Mixture of agnostic and something else. Everytime I try to think of possible reasons to prove a god doesn't or does exist both sides end up with never ending arguments.
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Rhydreath
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I am Wiccan as well. It suits me better and I have an easier time being myself.

I was raised Methodist, but my parents decided not to force it upon me. I find that it is harder to live up to expectations of Christians. Hard to explain....
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I'm not a religious person. I find it all very dated and out of touch with today. I'm just me, get on with life the way i want to and dont let things like religion decide for me what i am / am not allowed to do.
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I'm not a religious person. I find it all very dated and out of touch with today

The values taught within the bible apply moral values. Therefore, it can only apply less to those who don't apply it at all. So I don't see how it can be out-of-date.
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Christian. Jesus Christ is not hard to live up to, Rhydreath.
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SyringeX
Nov 5 2004, 01:08 PM
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I'm not a religious person. I find it all very dated and out of touch with today

The values taught within the bible apply moral values. Therefore, it can only apply less to those who don't apply it at all. So I don't see how it can be out-of-date.

It's very out-of-date. People's attitudes and moral beliefs have changed a lot in the past 2000 years. And i meant no offence, it's just what i think.
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Nov 5 2004, 07:10 AM
SyringeX
Nov 5 2004, 01:08 PM
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I'm not a religious person. I find it all very dated and out of touch with today

The values taught within the bible apply moral values. Therefore, it can only apply less to those who don't apply it at all. So I don't see how it can be out-of-date.

It's very out-of-date. People's attitudes and moral beliefs have changed a lot in the past 2000 years. And i meant no offence, it's just what i think.

I mean no offense either, but I don't see how it can be out of date. Like I said, those with different morals often do not apply the morals in the bible. Is it that hard to love thy neighbor, or not to steal? It's these basic principles that the bible teaches, it's not asking us to go all out and preach to every person in the world.
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SyringeX
Nov 5 2004, 01:12 PM
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Nov 5 2004, 07:10 AM
SyringeX
Nov 5 2004, 01:08 PM
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I'm not a religious person. I find it all very dated and out of touch with today

The values taught within the bible apply moral values. Therefore, it can only apply less to those who don't apply it at all. So I don't see how it can be out-of-date.

It's very out-of-date. People's attitudes and moral beliefs have changed a lot in the past 2000 years. And i meant no offence, it's just what i think.

I mean no offense either, but I don't see how it can be out of date. Like I said, those with different morals often do not apply the morals in the bible. Is it that hard to love thy neighbor, or not to steal? It's these basic principles that the bible teaches, it's not asking us to go all out and preach to every person in the world.

I don't feel that the entire moral teachings of the bible are out of date. I agree that loving your neighbour and not stealing etc are good teachings. But then their are other issues, which at the time, i'm sure where justified, but 2000 odd years on are probably no longer politically correct one could say. thats all.
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limester816
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Im just a follower, I believe in God. Not Christian, Not Islamic, Not Buddhist... just, a believer.
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I heavily believe in God. I also read the bible, but only for moral values. Many people say I'm Catholic but I don't believe in baptism and the 7 sacrements. I don't really think it's a load of crap, just I know that God probably gets annoyed being praised all the time... :haha:
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I'm an indecisionist.
Nothing has shown me that a higher being exists, nothing has shown me that a higher being does not exist.

Either way I'm just trying to be a good person, trying to stay true to my principles of respecting others.
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I belive in God, I'm a muslim but, I don't want to kill people in the name of god or any crap like jihad when I grow up because in our religion it's taboo to kill people because they are not muslims. I respect all religions. :)
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