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What are your religious views and why
Topic Started: Nov 5 2004, 12:55 AM (3,347 Views)
demona
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More like Agnostic. You basically dont belive in anyhting. Nothing at all. Your kinda looking. Or maybe just undecided. Either way.

Appathy suxs. I think more people need to have a definate desisiocn on their belifs. I mean its appathy that is runing my nation. I know some of you are not from the Us.
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Glitch
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The Balrog
Nov 12 2004, 02:06 PM
Dynamix
Nov 12 2004, 10:30 AM
I am nothing :D. And proud :).

Then you follow the religion of atheism, so you are something. :geek:

Atheism is not a religion.

The prefix a- means "non" or "abscence of"

Theism refers to religion/worship.

Therefore, Atheism is the absence of religion.
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AgnosticAngel
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Glitch
Nov 12 2004, 04:58 PM
The Balrog
Nov 12 2004, 02:06 PM
Dynamix
Nov 12 2004, 10:30 AM
I am nothing :D. And proud :).

Then you follow the religion of atheism, so you are something. :geek:

Atheism is not a religion.

The prefix a- means "non" or "abscence of"

Theism refers to religion/worship.

Therefore, Atheism is the absence of religion.

While that is the literal break down of the word it is a general disbelief in God(s). Agnostic isn't really nothing either because it is more or less the idea that the existence of God cannot be proven. A= without Gnostic= knowledge.

Taking no stance, being unreligious I would say is just apathetic to the whole subject.
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AgnosticAngel
Nov 12 2004, 04:13 AM
Jguy101
Nov 11 2004, 08:50 PM
I'm Catholic.

I just have to ask all these people who say there's no proof of God: explain how there is absolutely nothing, and all of a sudden there's this big bang, creating a universe? How can a universe jsut pop into existense?

It's already been talked about - it's the idea of the universe being infinite where everything happens at some point in time. Pretty sure it was already went into more detailed than I can offer, read back a ways.

Everything happens at SOME POINT IN TIME.

That's what I don't get.
If we live not only in an infinite time period, but an infinite amount of space...

than wouldn't an infinite (everything) amount of things be happening for the same time ALL THE TIME???????
For ex....you say there is another earth out there somewhere justlike this and there is another SZ with another Trav-man typing this exact same message. Or that there has been or will be at least...Well, if we live in an infinite SPACE, AND an infite TIME, then wouldn't this same exact circumstance be happening right now, in an infite amount of places, and yesterday in an infinite amount of places, and tomorrow in an infinite amount of places?????????

*AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That is just so stupid! So does that mean that somewhere out there there is a place wher SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS is REAL?!?!?!!?

Ok...calm down travis....calm down.

Trav
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Glitch
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For ex....you say there is another earth out there somewhere justlike this and there is another SZ with another Trav-man typing this exact same message.

Yes. In fact, there are infinite Earths out there with infinite Trav-man's typing this same message, because in an infinite Universe everything occurs infinitely.

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Or that there has been or will be at least...Well, if we live in an infinite SPACE, AND an infite TIME, then wouldn't this same exact circumstance be happening right now, in an infite amount of places, and yesterday in an infinite amount of places, and tomorrow in an infinite amount of places?????????

Yes.

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That is just so stupid! So does that mean that somewhere out there there is a place wher SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS is REAL?!?!?!!?

Yes. But the thing is, we'll probably never discover that place, because you can't possibly explore even a fraction of an infinite Universe.
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Jguy101
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Trav-man
Nov 12 2004, 07:10 PM
AgnosticAngel
Nov 12 2004, 04:13 AM
Jguy101
Nov 11 2004, 08:50 PM
I'm Catholic.

I just have to ask all these people who say there's no proof of God: explain how there is absolutely nothing, and all of a sudden there's this big bang, creating a universe? How can a universe jsut pop into existense?

It's already been talked about - it's the idea of the universe being infinite where everything happens at some point in time. Pretty sure it was already went into more detailed than I can offer, read back a ways.

Everything happens at SOME POINT IN TIME.

That's what I don't get.
If we live not only in an infinite time period, but an infinite amount of space...

than wouldn't an infinite (everything) amount of things be happening for the same time ALL THE TIME???????
For ex....you say there is another earth out there somewhere justlike this and there is another SZ with another Trav-man typing this exact same message. Or that there has been or will be at least...Well, if we live in an infinite SPACE, AND an infite TIME, then wouldn't this same exact circumstance be happening right now, in an infite amount of places, and yesterday in an infinite amount of places, and tomorrow in an infinite amount of places?????????

*AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That is just so stupid! So does that mean that somewhere out there there is a place wher SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS is REAL?!?!?!!?

Ok...calm down travis....calm down.

Trav

You know, I was at a Lego Bionicle site (I left in march after a really stupid no-religion-whatsoever rule, versus their previous rule that reasonably disallowed religious topics because of obnoxious people that started flame wars), and one of the mods was saying that there's some universe out there where Lego's Bionicle line is real.

Seriously, that's insane. I mean, SpongeBob is real? That's just nuts. Heck, darwin himself admitted that Evolution was just a theory.
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AgnosticAngel
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Seriously, that's insane. I mean, SpongeBob is real? That's just nuts. Heck, darwin himself admitted that Evolution was just a theory.


A theory is a pretty substantial thing. It means up to this date it has not been disproven. And the reasons Darwin doubted his own work have for the most part already been solved. Actually they were being worked on during Darwin's lifetime but unfortunately half way around the world so the two did not know of each other. Darwin determined there is evolution but could not determine why, and that's where his doubts stemmed from. It has sense been discovered that evolution comes from mutations in DNA and gametic cells (sex cells, chromosomes). This in turn is acted upon by many things like natural selection, genetic drift, and so on...But without the mutation that brings new changes into the process there would be no evolution. Because Darwin could obviously not see these mutations as they take place on the microscopic level, he didn't understand why evolution existed and began to doubt his own findings.

[/end genetics rant] Never thought genetics lectures would prove useful in a discussion on SZ :lol:
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demona
Nov 5 2004, 04:55 AM
I am a wiccan. You can call me a witch if you would prefer. I follow the path that i feel that suits my life the best. I am a lover of nature. I feel as if the elements (earth,air,fire, and water) speak to me on a daily basis.

I can tell that there are spirts all around. The goddeaa makes us feel welcome.

I was born a wiccan/witch. it all started when i was little where i was always interested in magic like making things rise and such and i too sence spirits or goddesses just a month ago i contacted them through wind. i believe in God too so i guess you could call me 50 50
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Nov 13 2004, 03:17 AM
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For ex....you say there is another earth out there somewhere justlike this and there is another SZ with another Trav-man typing this exact same message.

Yes. In fact, there are infinite Earths out there with infinite Trav-man's typing this same message, because in an infinite Universe everything occurs infinitely.

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Or that there has been or will be at least...Well, if we live in an infinite SPACE, AND an infite TIME, then wouldn't this same exact circumstance be happening right now, in an infite amount of places, and yesterday in an infinite amount of places, and tomorrow in an infinite amount of places?????????

Yes.

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That is just so stupid! So does that mean that somewhere out there there is a place wher SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS is REAL?!?!?!!?

Yes. But the thing is, we'll probably never discover that place, because you can't possibly explore even a fraction of an infinite Universe.

Thank you for clarifying, Glitch. That had me confused beyond what I can imagine.

And, now I'm not confused. I've just made up my mind that I will never believe anything remotely that silly.

I find it ironic that 'reason' would defend that SpongeBob Squarepants, is real and alive...infinitely. :lol:

Also, if we live an infinite universe. Wouldn't God be real in some form?
Just to clarify...


Trav
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AgnosticAngel
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Er...Maybe it's just me but I disagree with the spongebob dealy. Spongebob isn't made up of any kind of matter (less you count the paper he may have been drawn on) therefore I don't believe he would exist...But yeah I'm not a full support of the Big Bang anyways so I suppose it doesn't matter if I disagree with whether spongebob would exist or not.
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I'm .. I dont really have a name for it ... :unsure:

I believe that everyon eshoul dbe treated equal .. no matter what religon

I also believe that every one has a bit of a god/ goddess inside of them and at times tap into that aincient( sp?) power ... I also take on the believes of spiritualist mediums , with spirit guides and angels and spirits .
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Thank you for clarifying, Glitch. That had me confused beyond what I can imagine.

And, now I'm not confused. I've just made up my mind that I will never believe anything remotely that silly.

I find it ironic that 'reason' would defend that SpongeBob Squarepants, is real and alive...infinitely.  :lol:

Also, if we live an infinite universe. Wouldn't God be real in some form?
Just to clarify...


Trav


God isn't a person, or a thing. One of you people said earlier in this topic that God does not exist in our physical world. When I say Universe I'm referring to the physical Universe.

And although it's possible that Spongebob is real and alive out there somewhere, there are laws that the Universe abides by. Spongebob may be a statue that is worshipped by some strange aliens on a distant world, but Spongebob the yellow sponge thing probably does not exist, because I don't think a common kitchen sponge is capable of supporting an advanced, talking, thinking life form.

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You know, I was at a Lego Bionicle site (I left in march after a really stupid no-religion-whatsoever rule, versus their previous rule that reasonably disallowed religious topics because of obnoxious people that started flame wars), and one of the mods was saying that there's some universe out there where Lego's Bionicle line is real.

Seriously, that's insane. I mean, SpongeBob is real? That's just nuts. Heck, darwin himself admitted that Evolution was just a theory.

We're not talking about Evolution here. Evolution is (as provided by the American Heritage Dictionary) "Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species."
I don't see how discussion of an infinite Universe has anything to do with that. If you want to go into evolution that's something completely different, but keep in mind that most people, regardless of religion, still accept evolution. Hell, the Pope thinks that evolution is real to a degree!
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Nov 13 2004, 11:21 AM
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Thank you for clarifying, Glitch. That had me confused beyond what I can imagine.

And, now I'm not confused. I've just made up my mind that I will never believe anything remotely that silly.

I find it ironic that 'reason' would defend that SpongeBob Squarepants, is real and alive...infinitely.  :lol:

Also, if we live an infinite universe. Wouldn't God be real in some form?
Just to clarify...


Trav


God isn't a person, or a thing. One of you people said earlier in this topic that God does not exist in our physical world. When I say Universe I'm referring to the physical Universe.

And although it's possible that Spongebob is real and alive out there somewhere, there are laws that the Universe abides by. Spongebob may be a statue that is worshipped by some strange aliens on a distant world, but Spongebob the yellow sponge thing probably does not exist, because I don't think a common kitchen sponge is capable of supporting an advanced, talking, thinking life form.

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You know, I was at a Lego Bionicle site (I left in march after a really stupid no-religion-whatsoever rule, versus their previous rule that reasonably disallowed religious topics because of obnoxious people that started flame wars), and one of the mods was saying that there's some universe out there where Lego's Bionicle line is real.

Seriously, that's insane. I mean, SpongeBob is real? That's just nuts. Heck, darwin himself admitted that Evolution was just a theory.

We're not talking about Evolution here. Evolution is (as provided by the American Heritage Dictionary) "Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species."
I don't see how discussion of an infinite Universe has anything to do with that. If you want to go into evolution that's something completely different, but keep in mind that most people, regardless of religion, still accept evolution. Hell, the Pope thinks that evolution is real to a degree!

Yes, we believe Evolution does exist to a stupid extent. Microevolution,as it's known, would be an animal adapting to survive (I believe there's a fish that's somehow adapted to survive in Arctic waters). However, we don't believe in Macroevolution.
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Er...Macroevolution is produced by microevolution. Guess I'm not understanding how you can believe in one without the other. Macroevolution is seen in the long term after microevolution takes place. Microevolution are all those little tiny adaptations that allow something to survive and compete in the world - macroevolution is the creation of new species from all those little microevolutionary changes adding up. Just look at the flu virus - it's always changing so it can survive and it's constantly creating new forms of the virus. Those new forums are much like macroevolution (also called speciation).

You can see it in lemurs and other animals that were separated by geographic barriers. From fossils we can see at one time they lived as one species from a common ancestor but due to changes in environment and geographic barriers (such as two groups being on separate islands due to continental drift) they each had those microevolutionary adaptations - but due to being affected by different environmental influences they each adapted differently and over time became separate from one another in very obvious ways (macroevolution) and often cannot even mate together to produce fertile offspring.
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Nov 12 2004, 11:58 PM
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Nov 12 2004, 02:06 PM
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Nov 12 2004, 10:30 AM
I am nothing :D. And proud :).

Then you follow the religion of atheism, so you are something. :geek:

Atheism is not a religion.

The prefix a- means "non" or "abscence of"

Theism refers to religion/worship.

Therefore, Atheism is the absence of religion.

However, you adher to the philophosy of atheism, and you defend it as you defend a religion, so it isn't the absence of religion, it is a religion in itself. :/
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