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Favorite type of government?; NO FLAMING
Topic Started: Mar 18 2005, 03:29 PM (1,280 Views)
Suedama
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You don't understand. Not everyone will be able to work exactly the same amount. There is no way that is possible because everybody is different. Even if the government did jail those who slacked off the workers could still easily get away with not working. There is no way possible for every worker in the entire country to work the same amount of time and with the same amount of effort. Do you not concieve?
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Yes there is a way gather an average amount of hours they work and say you must work this much. Or just simply figure out the amount of hours each person can work add it up then average it out. it is alotta numbers and people to deal with but it can be done.
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You still don't understand. They would have to have military personnel there 24/7 watching the worker in order to get these results. They would have enormous trouble controlling the worker physically, and it would be impossible to control them emotionally. You may get the hours of work out of them, but you have no control over how hard they work because they might not want to work or something. The only way to get those numbers is to have military personnel stalking every single worker, and another personnel stalking the military, and etc. etc. It doesn't work at all. It turns out that the military would control everything, and you should already know that when the military controls everything the government dies. That's what happened to the Romans, and history tends to repeat itself. Sure the Romans died of a different government, but they died after the military took everything, after emporers took all power from the senate, after the Imperial Age began.
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lol I still understand and you do not need them to work 24/7 just like 12 hours a day most people do it already and they have time cards so they can tell how long one person is working. Their boss will watch them leave and go. No offense but it tis you who does not understand bro. not trying to flame.
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That measures time bud, not effort. You cannot control a man's effort with force. Plus the boss can lie just as much as the workers can. And those time cards are nothing when the worker can just sneak out of the building with ease and come back really late, punch in his time card and officially leave. And 12/7 isn't much better than 24/7. You still have military personnel stalking everybody except at night. It doesn't get rid of the threat that the military could take over any time they want to.
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The government will find out and I didn't mean force them to work I ment they work for a certain amount of hours a day. The time cards measure time and they will work 12 hours aday.
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In no government do the rulers find out everything. In every government in the world ever known there are thousands of things that go unpassed. And you still haven't answered my saying that communism cannot control effort, which still brings back the point that one who doesn't work efficiently gets the same pay as one who works over-efficiently.
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Whatever dude. We both you know are gonna make up excuses then I am gonna make some up. This could go on forever........
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Agreed. I like the idea of communism but it needs some polishing to work, and that is my conclusion in this topic. C ya.
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Mar 18 2005, 11:06 PM
Yes but it is my belief. I never qeustion your beleifs so why qeustion mine?

Without questions, discussion cannot exist. People have beliefs for a reason. I am not in anyway challenging your beliefs, or dismissing them Im just curious to find out your reasons behind your beliefs. :yes:

Communism is absolutely and utterly perfect in theory. However in theory it relies upon a perfect set of humans who adhere exclusively to the rules & laws associated with it. Its simply not possible in todays society to get this set of "perfect" humans. Here by communism just cannot work in todays society.
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But then people get greedy and want more than the farmer next door to them. Then everyone wants more and more and the government is ruined.
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That is why people must mature. Communism will not work today because humanbeings are not mature enough to not be greedy. no offense to anyone.
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I think the term "mature" isnt fully accurate. Its more so to do with the fact that the human pysche is of such that its naturally competitive. In a communist run system, there is no real allowance for this. As a result it unfortunately cannot work.
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Naked-supermodelism-Communist Party.



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lol Yay another Communist beleiver!
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