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| Schwarz | May 6 2004, 07:38 PM Post #136 |
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Thanks for reopening the FF OWA(Stuff)! We will really try to get everyone to obey the ToS. |
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| bmf | May 6 2004, 11:06 PM Post #137 |
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Hi guys/girls, Somehow my board has been deleted or taken offline because it violated the ToS. I dont know exactly what ToS it violated because I am not always monitering the forum 24 hours a day as I am quite busy with other things. Is it possible to find out why the forum was deleted and is it possible to get my forum back some how because we all worked very hard for the forum and now we dont want to see it deleted for a small error that some member did without me [admin] knowning. So please help me get my forum back, i worked hard for this. If you could help us, me and all my forum members would be very happy. The forums address is: http://s6.invisionfree.com/bmf/index.php If i know what terms was exactly violated i ratify the problem myself and will make sure the ToS are not violated in the future for sure. Thank you. BMF Admin http://s6.invisionfree.com/bmf/index.php |
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| dbzlotrfan | May 6 2004, 11:26 PM Post #138 |
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That would be a good suggestion to members that have a board. |
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| crev | May 7 2004, 08:22 AM Post #139 |
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personally i believe that an admin should tell you if your board has violated TOS as the board owner cant always censor all matreial posted... its just impossible...
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| Jervous | May 7 2004, 09:17 AM Post #140 |
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Then its your fault. |
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| Mr. Anonymous | May 8 2004, 01:39 PM Post #141 |
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1. You were being too soft. He keeps being trouble, you don't suspend him, you ban him. 2. If he keeps coming back, IP ban him. 3. If he uses proxies, find all of the IP's he posted with, and ban all of them. |
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| JimmyNZ | May 19 2004, 05:48 AM Post #142 |
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I did type out a lengthy and concise explaination as to why what I said was in fact not a lie. Mostly due to my words being used out of context. However I'm going to be the better man in this instance and not dispute it because IF has made it's decision. What I am curious about is why I am now telling you this 2 weeks after the fact. Why was my account here suspended for 15 days? I breached Terms of service leading to my board being closed. But how does this relate to my account on these support forums being that the two are completely unrelated? In my opinion, it was a clever ploy at censorship. I think you wanted to censor me to help cease my disputing your decision. I think this because I can't think of any other reasons why my account was suspended. And yes... this query is directed at the IF admin who chose to suspent my account. So if anybody is going to say "stop beating a dead horse". This is in fact a completely new dead horse... and it's not my fault you're only now hearing about it 2 weeks late. |
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| Deleted User | May 19 2004, 06:45 AM Post #143 |
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I don't think they're unrelated at all. If you're going to come here and spread misinformation and be disruptive in this forum, DuffMan is more than justified in preventing you from doing that. This is a support forum, not an outlet for people to beg and whine and complain about their boards being shut down and ask for explanations when the TOS clearly states you are not entitled to one. If you ask around, you'll find that most (if not all) of the people who jumped on the little "IF Revolution" protest bandwagon had their accounts suspended and/or received warnings, and I believe at least one was banned, but I'm not positive. Click your warning percentage if you want more of an explanation. I'm sure making the second account to try and get around suspension didn't help.
I guess that was some time after I and other staff witnessed the topic where you told the member with the avatar in question that it was ok and then allowed him and a few others to post porn for at least several days without doing anything about it? Maybe you could explain how I took that out of context. I don't think DuffMan appreciates being lied to or people feigning innocence after he's been generous enough to provide them with his services for free. If I were him, that alone would have been enough reason to suspend you if you'd done it in private. Posting it here along with others who were posting misleading and disruptive comments was pretty much asking for a smackdown, in my opinion. |
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| JimmyNZ | May 20 2004, 12:41 AM Post #144 |
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I made my posts to enable 2 sides of the story to be heard. I don't trust any Invisionfree admin's judgement if they're going to censor people as a way or further disciplining people. As far as I'm concerned, a person's board and thier account on this support forum are 2 completely seperate issues. I could have pretended to be a user of my forum rather than the admin (on these support forums), and nobody would have been the wiser at this technicality because the 2 are seperate. I appreciate IF's right to censor at it's discretion posts made here, but IMHO censoring people as further disciplinary action is devious and bad practice. I did notice that none of the "IF Revolution" people hadn't posted. I had assumed they had been halted from posting like me. But this doesn't justify it anymore in my opinion. As for the porn thing. I really didn't want to go here because I consider the matter closed. I didn't mention anything about this in my previous post, but since you have gone and brought it up... I might aswell tell you how my words were used out of context.... The time I first said that I didn't have a problem with porn, was several days before I went and checked the TOS... and then posted a message explaing to the users about it, and asking for thier opinion as to whether they wanted "to chance it" or not. My words were used out of context because I was making the point that at the time my forum was closed, I had removed the porn and the R18 section. But a certain person chose to use my words as an arguement against me. You see now how there was an extenuating circumstance that has not been mentioned by anybody but me. Which I hope explains to you why I think freedom of speech is important on these forums. Also why I didn't appreciate having my account locked. So to conclude. Like I said... I consider the matter of my old forum finished. I will not make further statements regarding it, unless any of the admins insist on continuing to bring it up. My query in the last 2 posts has been regarding my account being locked on this support forum. |
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| Brian | May 20 2004, 02:00 AM Post #145 |
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I could give you the standard "freedom of speech doesn't necessarily apply on IF" which we use when people ask why they can't spam/swear/post porn, however your question does bring up some real issues. First of all, I can't think of a single occassion where someone was banned/suspended on the support forums for something that occurred only on their board. In this case your board was closed for one reason and your account suspended here for another reason. As for the reason why your account was suspended... the IF Revolution was an ill conceived idea to phoment trouble on the support forums. It was begun by a user with 4/5 warnings (for things like abusing members, disrespecting staf, and spam) and quickly supported by someone who openly admits to stealing multiple IF boards, obviously not a good crowd to get involved with. Apparently its only goal was to force us to inform users why their boards were closed, which wasn't really necessary since 99% of the time we tell users why their board was closed if they come to the support forums and ask in even a halfway reasonable manner. Anyway to make a long story short, you apparently joined and were thus suspended mainly for association. Right or wrong the two leaders got lengthly penalties and anyone else generally got a comparatively short suspension. The shorter suspensions were mainly a method to prevent a user from signing up just to flame us for closing their board. Usually users like that give up if they can't post for two weeks. In fact you are actually the only user who was suspended as a result of that whole thing that has made a post since. Anyway, hopefully this helps you see our side of the story. Your suspension wasn't an attempt to surpress complaints or even related to the closure of your board. Rather it was designed as a deterrent for users whose only goal was to cause problems. Feel free to PM me with any further questions. ~Brian |
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| JimmyNZ | May 20 2004, 03:14 AM Post #146 |
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Thanks for your explaination Brian, it has been insightful, mature, and helpful. As you said... the only apparent goal of the "IF revolution" was to prompt explainations as to board closures. Might I suggest that IF take this as constructive critisism. My suggestion is to adjust your closure protocol to this... * Email a board admin at the same time you close a board, as to the reason. Yes, you state in the TOS you don't have to provide a reason. But failing to provide a reason has simply left offenders dumbfounded and frustrated. I honestly think providing a brief reason for closure in an email will help prevent/lessen future "IF revolutions". I had to come here and post on the forum to get Duffman to email me with the reason why. |
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