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The right to live?
Topic Started: Jun 10 2005, 11:27 AM (671 Views)
JoshKB
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Just let him pass away peacfully and R.I.P
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If the person is able to make a conscious decision, then it should be up to them. If they aren't, it's what their family feels would be best for them, and what the person would want.
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Jun 10 2005, 06:42 PM
If people kept everybody alive in comas, we'd run out of room. People are suppose to die, that's what's slowing down over population. Although it's still going to happen anyway.

Ok, but what happens if someone for example..had a car accident and was quite young and there was a chance they could make a full recovery, would you not want to give that person a chance? Or would you want to just switch them off straight away, personally I would like them to get every chance to live.
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Clair
Jun 10 2005, 01:47 PM
Rεd
Jun 10 2005, 06:42 PM
If people kept everybody alive in comas, we'd run out of room. People are suppose to die, that's what's slowing down over population. Although it's still going to happen anyway.

Ok, but what happens if someone for example..had a car accident and was quite young and there was a chance they could make a full recovery, would you not want to give that person a chance? Or would you want to just switch them off straight away, personally I would like them to get every chance to live.

I was talking about older people. Seniors. I was talking about comas actually. If they can be saved without being a vegatable, let them.
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Rεd
Jun 10 2005, 06:53 PM
Clair
Jun 10 2005, 01:47 PM
Rεd
Jun 10 2005, 06:42 PM
If people kept everybody alive in comas, we'd run out of room. People are suppose to die, that's what's slowing down over population. Although it's still going to happen anyway.

Ok, but what happens if someone for example..had a car accident and was quite young and there was a chance they could make a full recovery, would you not want to give that person a chance? Or would you want to just switch them off straight away, personally I would like them to get every chance to live.

I was talking about older people. Seniors. I was talking about comas actually. If they can be saved without being a vegatable, let them.

yeah but this isnt about comas necessarily, I gave you that example because not all cases are of old people and not all people are in comas. My Grandad for example is in a nursing home.
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If they have a clear wish to end their own life, then they should definetly be allowed to do so.

If they cannot possibly tell you whether they want to live or die, then it's purely circumstancial.
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If the person wants to battle and live in pain. let him, but it would be better for him to die peacefully.
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Clair
Jun 10 2005, 04:27 PM
My grandad currently is very ill and close to dying, my Mother and Aunt have given instructions 'Do not resucitate' being as he is so ill and is in a fair amount of pain. He is on Morphine for the pain, has no pulse in his legs and gangrene in his toe(which wont spread since there is no circulation in his legs) so his life is not very comfortable which is obviously why if the worst came to the worst, my Mum would prefer him to die peacefully without being resucitated. My question is this, do you think no matter how sick someone is they should be given another chance to live or do you think its fair and kinder to let them die peacefully. I'm on the fence on this one because I always have hope no matter how sick someone might be, at the same time I can understand it.

Aww no :(

Im so sorry for you Clair, you just lost a member of your family. I hope the right decision is made for your Grandad.

I know if it was my Grandad, I'd prefer for them not to resucitate, because he struggles with everyday things since his stroke and he hasnt been the same. I feel afraid that hes giving up, and I hate him saying "I wont be here much longer".

Anyway, I hope it turns out for the best, and that he, your family and yourself are not in too much pain.
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Nicola
Jun 11 2005, 12:08 AM
Clair
Jun 10 2005, 04:27 PM
My grandad currently is very ill and close to dying, my Mother and Aunt have given instructions 'Do not resucitate' being as he is so ill and is in a fair amount of pain. He is on Morphine for the pain, has no pulse in his legs and gangrene in his toe(which wont spread since there is no circulation in his legs) so his life is not very comfortable which is obviously why if the worst came to the worst, my Mum would prefer him to die peacefully without being resucitated. My question is this, do you think no matter how sick someone is they should be given another chance to live or do you think its fair and kinder to let them die peacefully. I'm on the fence on this one because I always have hope no matter how sick someone might be, at the same time I can understand it.

Aww no :(

Im so sorry for you Clair, you just lost a member of your family. I hope the right decision is made for your Grandad.

I know if it was my Grandad, I'd prefer for them not to resucitate, because he struggles with everyday things since his stroke and he hasnt been the same. I feel afraid that hes giving up, and I hate him saying "I wont be here much longer".

Anyway, I hope it turns out for the best, and that he, your family and yourself are not in too much pain.

Thanks Nicola, that means alot. Yes hes been given 2 months estimated to live, so it will be 4 deaths in like...2 months...depending on when he goes? :'(

I dont want him to suffer either, kinder to let him go :(
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Clair
Jun 11 2005, 12:11 AM
Nicola
Jun 11 2005, 12:08 AM
Clair
Jun 10 2005, 04:27 PM
My grandad currently is very ill and close to dying, my Mother and Aunt have given instructions 'Do not resucitate' being as he is so ill and is in a fair amount of pain. He is on Morphine for the pain, has no pulse in his legs and gangrene in his toe(which wont spread since there is no circulation in his legs) so his life is not very comfortable which is obviously why if the worst came to the worst, my Mum would prefer him to die peacefully without being resucitated. My question is this, do you think no matter how sick someone is they should be given another chance to live or do you think its fair and kinder to let them die peacefully. I'm on the fence on this one because I always have hope no matter how sick someone might be, at the same time I can understand it.

Aww no :(

Im so sorry for you Clair, you just lost a member of your family. I hope the right decision is made for your Grandad.

I know if it was my Grandad, I'd prefer for them not to resucitate, because he struggles with everyday things since his stroke and he hasnt been the same. I feel afraid that hes giving up, and I hate him saying "I wont be here much longer".

Anyway, I hope it turns out for the best, and that he, your family and yourself are not in too much pain.

Thanks Nicola, that means alot. Yes hes been given 2 months estimated to live, so it will be 4 deaths in like...2 months? :'(

4? I hope this doesnt sound rude, but that sucks :(

I'm lucky, and have not lost a close family member yet, so I dont know how it feels. I hope you and your family pull through though.
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Nicola
Jun 11 2005, 12:13 AM
Clair
Jun 11 2005, 12:11 AM
Nicola
Jun 11 2005, 12:08 AM
Clair
Jun 10 2005, 04:27 PM
My grandad currently is very ill and close to dying, my Mother and Aunt have given instructions 'Do not resucitate' being as he is so ill and is in a fair amount of pain. He is on Morphine for the pain, has no pulse in his legs and gangrene in his toe(which wont spread since there is no circulation in his legs) so his life is not very comfortable which is obviously why if the worst came to the worst, my Mum would prefer him to die peacefully without being resucitated. My question is this, do you think no matter how sick someone is they should be given another chance to live or do you think its fair and kinder to let them die peacefully. I'm on the fence on this one because I always have hope no matter how sick someone might be, at the same time I can understand it.

Aww no :(

Im so sorry for you Clair, you just lost a member of your family. I hope the right decision is made for your Grandad.

I know if it was my Grandad, I'd prefer for them not to resucitate, because he struggles with everyday things since his stroke and he hasnt been the same. I feel afraid that hes giving up, and I hate him saying "I wont be here much longer".

Anyway, I hope it turns out for the best, and that he, your family and yourself are not in too much pain.

Thanks Nicola, that means alot. Yes hes been given 2 months estimated to live, so it will be 4 deaths in like...2 months? :'(

4? I hope this doesnt sound rude, but that sucks :(

I'm lucky, and have not lost a close family member yet, so I dont know how it feels. I hope you and your family pull through though.

Yes it will be 4 with this one, my Great Aunt died on the Tuesday, her husband (my Great Uncle) died on the Saturday of the same week and my Paternal Grandfather died the following Thursday.

Great Aunt died of a brain haemorrage. :(

Great Uncle - Broken heart :(

Grandfather - Cancer :'(

Thanks for the well wish, Nicola.
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This is hard to comment on, I would rather die peacefully, knowing I wouldn't last long after it anyway ;)
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Personally, I'm going to fight all the way to the very end. I don't want to seem rude to the rest of you, so I'm going to just leave it at that.

EDIT: OMFG! 666 posts in a topic about death!!!

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Clair,

I can see where this situation might be difficult, and it is one no person should have to make. However, if he is able to make decisions, I think it should be his choice. If he isn't in the right mind to make the decision I would survey the chances of his survival and life after the illness. If all seems glum and it is his wishes I would let him go peachefully. However if he has hope left, I would give him a chance.

Hope it goes well and I will be praying.

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Jun 11 2005, 01:47 AM
Clair,

I can see where this situation might be difficult, and it is one no person should have to make. However, if he is able to make decisions, I think it should be his choice. If he isn't in the right mind to make the decision I would survey the chances of his survival and life after the illness. If all seems glum and it is his wishes I would let him go peachefully. However if he has hope left, I would give him a chance.

Hope it goes well and I will be praying.

Hey Ghetto,

Thanks for that, he cant make this decision for himself as his mind isnt what it was. He has been decaying for a good while now and hes just getting worse and now hes lost his pulse in his legs and his toes gone black etc, there is nothing they can do and he is on borrowed time really. The Doctor has given him a week up to 2 months to live so its anytime now really. It wouldnt be fair to prolong the suffering :( he may have said when he was Ok in his mind about his wishes, I dont know but my Mum and Aunt have made the decision which they feel would be best, and it cant have been easy
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