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| finch | Jun 10 2005, 04:18 PM Post #1 |
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Yay. The "Let's out-debate Slayer until he cries" thread. Go easy on me. Why go vegan? There are many reasons for going vegan – just as there are for going vegetarian. Being vegetarian helps immeasurably in reducing animal suffering, environmental damage, hunger in the developing world and risks to our own health. Veganism takes all those advantages just a little further. For very many people concerned about any or all of these problems, it seems the natural step to take from vegetarianism. ~ Viva.org.uk What do you think about vegan/vegetarianism? Personally, I believe that animals aren't ours to do such things to. I mean, you wouldn't eat your family or friends, right? (Hopefully. >_>) What makes animals different? |
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| Vettore | Jun 10 2005, 04:21 PM Post #2 |
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DON VETTORE
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I dont believe in killing animals just for a quick meal, I believe that animals should be treated with the same respect as humans are. And just for the record, Im a vegetarian. |
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| Sytex | Jun 10 2005, 04:22 PM Post #3 |
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Survival of the fittest, competition, and predation have been with the world from the very beginning. One organism eating another is only natural. There are things you're not naturally intended to eat; such as, rocks, plastic, wood, etc, etc. However, animals are not part of that. They provide nutrition, especially in way of protein and other compounds that plants do not as openly provide. |
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| Glitch | Jun 10 2005, 04:23 PM Post #4 |
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I think that going vegetarian to stop animal cruelty is useless. If you're not going to eat them, someone else will. It's the natural order for humans to eat animals. Plants collect energy through photosynthesis, which is passed on the cow that eats them, which is then passed on to the person who eats the hamburger. It's only natural. Besides, if early humans never started eating meat then their brains would not have had the nutrients vital to develop to the size ours are today. |
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| Meltdown | Jun 10 2005, 04:27 PM Post #5 |
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I am not a vegetarian. Meat contains nutrients that give you a strong body, which is why we have survived the past two million years. However, I am opposed to the way some of the animals are kept. For more info, click the image in my sig. It explains it all
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| Rεd | Jun 10 2005, 04:28 PM Post #6 |
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Silence. I'm thinking.
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That's an animal cruelty site? I thought it was just a cool flash video. Then again, I didn't have the sound on when I was listening to it. |
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| finch | Jun 10 2005, 04:29 PM Post #7 |
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You can get protein, calcium and other nutrients from plants and meat alternatives.
Humans have only eaten meat in quite recent evolutionary history and then only through the use of tools like spears and fire. Only when we started farming (hardly natural!) did meat become even a regular part of most human beings’ diets and eating meat on a daily basis is very recent - since the creation of factory farming after the Second World War, I believe. (Correct me if I'm wrong) Cost of rearing animals went down, and the meat eating explosion was pretty much what happened. And what’s natural about factory farming, live exports and slaughterhouses? |
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| Meltdown | Jun 10 2005, 04:29 PM Post #8 |
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Yes, it's an animal cruelty video. It's ment to convey a biased view in a slightly entertaining way. I agree with everything it says. |
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| Rεd | Jun 10 2005, 04:30 PM Post #9 |
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Silence. I'm thinking.
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What!? Have you heard of the neanderthaws and the crow-magnents? They were hunters. They had tools. I'm not sure what you meant by recent evolutionary history, but I have a feeling you weren't talking about mammoth years. |
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| Clair | Jun 10 2005, 04:32 PM Post #10 |
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Successful at last.
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I respect your views Slayer If you think about it though, we dont eat each other no but animals do kill other animals to eat. Its a nice idea but unless the whole world is going to stop eating animals and wearing leather etc etc then it wont make much of a difference by not eating meat. Dont yell at me anyone, just my view
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| finch | Jun 10 2005, 04:36 PM Post #11 |
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We shouldn’t kill because we have a choice. Lions and tigers etc have to kill to survive (they are known as obligate carnivores): we don’t. Animals can only follow their instincts but we human beings can think about the consequences of our actions. We can recognise the suffering of other animals and we can choose not to inflict it on them.
Np, I save around 250 animals per year by choosing not to eat meat products.
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| Clair | Jun 10 2005, 04:37 PM Post #12 |
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Successful at last.
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More power to you, I'm not going to say anything else. No point
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| Innocence | Jun 10 2005, 04:49 PM Post #13 |
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我 百鬼夜行を逝
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Humans have eaten meat since the beginning of time. It's good for our bodies, and is the natural thing to do. Now, I think there is such a thing as eating an excess of meat, more than one's body really needs, but I don't see how eating enough to give yourself protein and nutrients is a bad thing. Sure there are pills and such you can take as a replacement, but nothing man-made is as good as what nature itself creates. I won't stop someone from being vegetarian or vegan because it is a personal belief and everyone has their own right to eat what they will, but I also expect to not have those beliefs shoved down my throat- something many people do. Hell, my best friend is a vegetarian and we get along just fine. |
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| Curry | Jun 10 2005, 04:53 PM Post #14 |
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I don't think we were made to eat meat. If we were, wouldn't we have carnivirous teeth? |
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| Rεd | Jun 10 2005, 04:54 PM Post #15 |
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Well I do. But all the others are omnviorousivisousours... (O_o) ...teeth. We're omnivores. We eat meat, and luttuce... |
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If you think about it though, we dont eat each other no but animals do kill other animals to eat. Its a nice idea but unless the whole world is going to stop eating animals and wearing leather etc etc then it wont make much of a difference by not eating meat. Dont yell at me anyone, just my view
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