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Topic Started: Jun 10 2005, 05:19 PM (626 Views)
TeeSee
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Just ignore them man, I thought some Christian branches were ok with homosexuality though :ermm:
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limester816
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Uhhh is this about the band? Im lost
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RagingFuryBlack
Jun 10 2005, 04:36 PM
Lugiatm
Jun 10 2005, 05:27 PM
Amberon
Jun 10 2005, 09:22 PM
I think that sometimes Chritianity is harsh and too strict on some freedom. Having homosexual feelings is perfectly natrual, even other animals do it when there is nothing to gain but having fun.
I'm sure that there's a Christian branch that beleives that being homosexual is ok.

It's not christianity, it's people and their ******* stereotypes.

No, its the Christian Religion. Trust me on that.

*RagingFuryBlack is Roman Cathloic, I should know >_<

It's not the religion. It's just people see things in different ways. Honestly, people who think Gays are "Evil" are stereotyping. People judge too much.
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Fo'rizzle
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Amberon
Jun 10 2005, 03:22 PM
I think that sometimes Chritianity is harsh and too strict on some freedom. Having homosexual feelings is perfectly natrual, even other animals do it when there is nothing to gain but having fun.
I'm sure that there's a Christian branch that beleives that being homosexual is ok.

I don't believe that. I don't hate gay people like they do, i just don't think God designed humans like that.
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Trav-man
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Slayer
Jun 10 2005, 02:19 PM
..Well, not camp, school.


We have RE (Relgious Education) on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Woo.
It wasn't really a big deal until this week. This week, we're starting a small topic called homosexuality and the bible.

Basically, I have to sit through 35 minutes of my teacher degrading me, and telling the class how evil and wicked gay people are. I hate it.
I've even been told:
"Anyone that has homosexual feelings should see a counseller."
I couldn't speak for like a minute. I felt.. dirty.. and like a bad person. I'm sure I went completley white, too. Felt sick.

I mean, it's ironic. The one thing I wanted to believe in, and religion shuns me. I want to believe in the bible, and be faithful, but I don't think I can if I'm 'wrong'.
I'm starting to hate myself.

:(

Yeah. Just a little rant. Ignore if you wish.

Well, that's definitely not cool - but don't assume that these are the thoughts of all Christians, or that all of it is even 100% of God's Word. This teacher, as an individual, has problems with homosexuality that go beyond what the Bible tells us. Really. Just by hearing what you've told me, I know that. That teacher really has some twisted thoughts. Don't take all of it seriously. If you have any questions or you need something cleared up on a personal level, you can PM me and I'd love to try and explain things to you on a fair level without any type of prejudice or such like that. They don't call me Bible Man for nothing. :P

Here are some points for now that you may want to tell this teacher:

  • Why should a homosexual who is trying to live the Christian lifestyle need to go see a counselor? The Bible says that Jesus Christ left us the Holy Spirit when he ascended into Heaven to be our great counselor. Why would we need any human to help us if we have God Almighty? (John 14:15-18 NIV - "If you love me, you will obey what I command. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.") (Here is another verse. This one is actually a prophecy of Jesus, before he was born. Isaiah 9:6 NIV - For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.)
  • Ask your teacher if s/he can show you any verse in the Bible that says homosexuals themselves are wicked, not just the act of homosexuality.
  • Ask your teacher if God's love is available to everybody, or if He would shun homosexuals rather than love them and help them.
  • Ask your teacher if we should hate the sin, or the sinner.

If you bring these points to your teacher, you'll see that what s/he is saying is not entirely Bible-based. When people allow their own personal feelings to manipulate the teaching of God's Word, there is a huge problem.
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Tariq
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I had to go through the same thing during regular school religion. I go to a Catholic Private school (Not anymore, woot!), and we had to discuss "The Wrongs & Rights of being Christian.” and guess what was one of the wrongs.

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Wrong number 3: Having homosexual feelings. If you experience things, talk to a counselor and talk it out. If you cannot get rid of these feelings, or do not want to, you do not deserve to be a Christian.


I was so damn pissed, I literally stood up and said to the teacher "This is fu*ked! God doesn't CARE if we are gay or bi!" and naturally, everyone found out I was BI, and they kicked me out and suspended me for a week until my mom talked to the board.(What a way to come out, eh?)

You need to stand up. Ever since that thing, I chose to not participate in Christianity; I have my own "religion". I worship God, but not under any religion. Maybe you should do the same.
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Kyle.
Jun 11 2005, 02:21 AM
I had to go through the same thing during regular school religion. I go to a Catholic Private school (Not anymore, woot!), and we had to discuss "The Wrongs & Rights of being Christian.” and guess what was one of the wrongs.

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Wrong number 3: Having homosexual feelings. If you experience things, talk to a counselor and talk it out. If you cannot get rid of these feelings, or do not want to, you do not deserve to be a Christian.


I was so damn pissed, I literally stood up and said to the teacher "This is fu*ked! God doesn't CARE if we are gay or bi!" and naturally, everyone found out I was BI, and they kicked me out and suspended me for a week until my mom talked to the board.(What a way to come out, eh?)

You need to stand up. Ever since that thing, I chose to not participate in Christianity; I have my own "religion". I worship God, but not under any religion. Maybe you should do the same.

More power to you !! :yes:

Nice one B)
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Zero Resistance
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That's religion. Though not exactly what it said...

At least the teacher never said, All Homosexual feelings will be staked at midnight.or something.

You can just visit a councellor, and then try what Trav said.

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No, its the Christian Religion. Trust me on that.

*RagingFuryBlack is Roman Cathloic, I should know >_<


Incorrect. My girlfriend- and yes, laugh if you want, Lucius has a girlfriend, read his damn signature sometimes- is Roman Catholic, and a strong supporter of homosexuality, as are all others she knows in her church.
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Clair
Jun 11 2005, 01:26 AM
Kyle.
Jun 11 2005, 02:21 AM
I had to go through the same thing during regular school religion. I go to a Catholic Private school (Not anymore, woot!), and we had to discuss "The Wrongs & Rights of being Christian.” and guess what was one of the wrongs.

Textbook
 
Wrong number 3: Having homosexual feelings. If you experience things, talk to a counselor and talk it out. If you cannot get rid of these feelings, or do not want to, you do not deserve to be a Christian.


I was so damn pissed, I literally stood up and said to the teacher "This is fu*ked! God doesn't CARE if we are gay or bi!" and naturally, everyone found out I was BI, and they kicked me out and suspended me for a week until my mom talked to the board.(What a way to come out, eh?)

You need to stand up. Ever since that thing, I chose to not participate in Christianity; I have my own "religion". I worship God, but not under any religion. Maybe you should do the same.

More power to you !! :yes:

Nice one B)

They suspended you because you're bisexual?



WHOMG. I am considering aethism now.
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Zero Resistance
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Lugiatm
Jun 11 2005, 07:43 AM
Clair
Jun 11 2005, 01:26 AM
Kyle.
Jun 11 2005, 02:21 AM
I had to go through the same thing during regular school religion. I go to a Catholic Private school (Not anymore, woot!), and we had to discuss "The Wrongs & Rights of being Christian.” and guess what was one of the wrongs.

Textbook
 
Wrong number 3: Having homosexual feelings. If you experience things, talk to a counselor and talk it out. If you cannot get rid of these feelings, or do not want to, you do not deserve to be a Christian.


I was so damn pissed, I literally stood up and said to the teacher "This is fu*ked! God doesn't CARE if we are gay or bi!" and naturally, everyone found out I was BI, and they kicked me out and suspended me for a week until my mom talked to the board.(What a way to come out, eh?)

You need to stand up. Ever since that thing, I chose to not participate in Christianity; I have my own "religion". I worship God, but not under any religion. Maybe you should do the same.

More power to you !! :yes:

Nice one B)

They suspended you because you're bisexual?



WHOMG. I am considering aethism now.

Do so.
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Thats Bullcrap Slayer, just because your homosexual doesnt make you evil. You should say those things that Trav-man posted..teachers hate it when they are questioned with things they don't know the answers to. This is exactly why im an atheist, I dont want to be dictated by some ancient book and its do's and dont's.
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That's the biggest load of horse crap I've heard in a while. Overzealous idiots have no limits, I guess. I'm not saying everyone religious thinks like that, but that's a big problem that I have with religion. People making their personal beliefs more than just beliefs is morally wrong, in my opinion. In fact, I believe the governments of the world should outlaw such heinous indignities. Homosexuals already take enough crap from society, why should they have to be condemned by the authorities? *sigh* :(
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Slayer
Jun 10 2005, 09:19 PM
..Well, not camp, school.


We have RE (Relgious Education) on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Woo.
It wasn't really a big deal until this week. This week, we're starting a small topic called homosexuality and the bible.

Basically, I have to sit through 35 minutes of my teacher degrading me, and telling the class how evil and wicked gay people are. I hate it.
I've even been told:
"Anyone that has homosexual feelings should see a counseller."
I couldn't speak for like a minute. I felt.. dirty.. and like a bad person. I'm sure I went completley white, too. Felt sick.

I mean, it's ironic. The one thing I wanted to believe in, and religion shuns me. I want to believe in the bible, and be faithful, but I don't think I can if I'm 'wrong'.
I'm starting to hate myself.

:(

Yeah. Just a little rant. Ignore if you wish.

That's awful. And why I'm an Atheist, because the Christian religion is full of people like this.




But at the same time, I wouldn't advise talking to your teacher about it, at our age you can get targeted by dumbass kids for the smallest things, image the reaction of people knowing about your homosexuality. But kids are stupid, as are alot of Religious people nowerdays, who cannot accept homosexuality. You'll just have to ignore it, ther'll come a time in your life when people are mature enough to accept your sexuallity, but at the age we are, I'm afraid people's brains just aren't open enough to accept it.


Basiclly, don't talk to your teacher in case s/he publiclly denounces it or something.
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Yeah. I've had enough crap about being vegan. In my school, people get made fun of for listening to any band that isn't classic rock.

"Friends" (Notice the air quotes. >_>): What you listening to?
Me: Goldfinger.
Friends: Gooooollldfffinnnggeerrr [/Shirleybassey]
Me: No, it's the punk rock group.
Friends: So, crap then?
Me: Actually, I think your bands are crap.
Friends: *punches Slayer*

>_>
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