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US Role in WWII; Your Opinion
Topic Started: Jun 17 2005, 06:53 PM (692 Views)
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ForceEight
Jun 21 2005, 08:21 PM
Just as a side note, I don't know a boatload about it, but I love WWII. lol :clown:

I think Hitler would have done a fine job taking over all of Europe, had America not become involved. Now his death probably would have changed things, since no one else seemed capable to do what he was doing, but I really think he would have taken over essentially the whole continent, given time.

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Uhhhhhhhh...........dude/dudette some of us pretty much said that but none the less that is very very true but we will never know.
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I mean no offense to the brits here, but it sounds like you guys are just jealous because America helped defeat Hitler. Whether you like it or not, America was a very large part in defeating Hitler. Sure, the Russians were the first to Berlin, after the Americans had severely damaged Hitler's forces in the Battle at the Bulge. Russia's forces were much too small to take on Hitler's forces in the West. England, though they held out for a while, would not have been able to defend against Hitler, much less invade all of Europe again, without American help. Stop being a bunch stuck-up ingrates and say, "thanks.

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Yep, you yanks really need to stop saying without you we would have been screwed. We did it ourselves once, why not again? i didnt think USA had much to do with the European war anyway- i thought they were more concentrated on Japan and it was Russia that basically ended the war by taking berlin.

D-Day landings? The largest invading force yet seen by man? Yeah, that took place in Europe.

I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful towards some of you, but I hate to see America get screwed over for helping people.
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Staind.force
Jun 22 2005, 08:13 AM
I mean no offense to the brits here, but it sounds like you guys are just jealous because America helped defeat Hitler. Whether you like it or not, America was a very large part in defeating Hitler. Sure, the Russians were the first to Berlin, after the Americans had severely damaged Hitler's forces in the Battle at the Bulge. Russia's forces were much too small to take on Hitler's forces in the West. England, though they held out for a while, would not have been able to defend against Hitler, much less invade all of Europe again, without American help. Stop being a bunch stuck-up ingrates and say, "thanks.

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Yep, you yanks really need to stop saying without you we would have been screwed. We did it ourselves once, why not again? i didnt think USA had much to do with the European war anyway- i thought they were more concentrated on Japan and it was Russia that basically ended the war by taking berlin.

D-Day landings? The largest invading force yet seen by man? Yeah, that took place in Europe.

I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful towards some of you, but I hate to see America get screwed over for helping people.

Amen to that.
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Staind.force
Jun 22 2005, 05:13 PM
I mean no offense to the brits here, but it sounds like you guys are just jealous because America helped defeat Hitler. Whether you like it or not, America was a very large part in defeating Hitler. Sure, the Russians were the first to Berlin, after the Americans had severely damaged Hitler's forces in the Battle at the Bulge. England, though they held out for a while, would not have been able to defend against Hitler, much less invade all of Europe again, without American help. Stop being a bunch stuck-up ingrates and say, "thanks.

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Yep, you yanks really need to stop saying without you we would have been screwed. We did it ourselves once, why not again? i didnt think USA had much to do with the European war anyway- i thought they were more concentrated on Japan and it was Russia that basically ended the war by taking berlin.

D-Day landings? The largest invading force yet seen by man? Yeah, that took place in Europe.

I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful towards some of you, but I hate to see America get screwed over for helping people.

Yeah, real jealous [/sarcasim] Others, like I, Have stated that your sounding like your the best, and you won the war on your own, it's not jealousy.
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Russia's forces were much too small to take on Hitler's forces in the West.

Take a look at a Map some time. Even if their were few people at that place, they easially could of sent more
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Jun 22 2005, 04:34 PM
Staind.force
Jun 22 2005, 05:13 PM
I mean no offense to the brits here, but it sounds like you guys are just jealous because America helped defeat Hitler. Whether you like it or not, America was a very large part in defeating Hitler. Sure, the Russians were the first to Berlin, after the Americans had severely damaged Hitler's forces in the Battle at the Bulge. England, though they held out for a while, would not have been able to defend against Hitler, much less invade all of Europe again, without American help. Stop being a bunch stuck-up ingrates and say, "thanks.

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Yep, you yanks really need to stop saying without you we would have been screwed. We did it ourselves once, why not again? i didnt think USA had much to do with the European war anyway- i thought they were more concentrated on Japan and it was Russia that basically ended the war by taking berlin.

D-Day landings? The largest invading force yet seen by man? Yeah, that took place in Europe.

I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful towards some of you, but I hate to see America get screwed over for helping people.

Yeah, real jealous [/sarcasim] Others, like I, Have stated that your sounding like your the best, and you won the war on your own, it's not jealousy.
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Russia's forces were much too small to take on Hitler's forces in the West.

Take a look at a Map some time. Even if their were few people at that place, they easially could of sent more

I wasn't saying you in particular, and I'm not giving America the most credit. I just find it upsetting when people say, "we didnt need america, we couldve taken hitler on our own!!" when it's not true.

Errr... And I don't know how a map is going to tell me that Russia could've sent more men into the West.
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Jun 22 2005, 08:34 AM
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Jun 22 2005, 05:13 PM
I mean no offense to the brits here, but it sounds like you guys are just jealous because America helped defeat Hitler. Whether you like it or not, America was a very large part in defeating Hitler. Sure, the Russians were the first to Berlin, after the Americans had severely damaged Hitler's forces in the Battle at the Bulge. England, though they held out for a while, would not have been able to defend against Hitler, much less invade all of Europe again, without American help. Stop being a bunch stuck-up ingrates and say, "thanks.

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Yep, you yanks really need to stop saying without you we would have been screwed. We did it ourselves once, why not again? i didnt think USA had much to do with the European war anyway- i thought they were more concentrated on Japan and it was Russia that basically ended the war by taking berlin.

D-Day landings? The largest invading force yet seen by man? Yeah, that took place in Europe.

I'm sorry if I sounded disrespectful towards some of you, but I hate to see America get screwed over for helping people.

Yeah, real jealous [/sarcasim] Others, like I, Have stated that your sounding like your the best, and you won the war on your own, it's not jealousy.
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Russia's forces were much too small to take on Hitler's forces in the West.

Take a look at a Map some time. Even if their were few people at that place, they easially could of sent more

Hey look we did help you so the least you could do is be grateful and Russias force where thinly scattered.....I had family that fought on US, German, and Russian Army and trust me I know tons a bout WWII
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"we didnt need america, we couldve taken hitler on our own!!"
Quote me on that, and I am not being ungrateful, I am glad we had America, All I am saying is it wasn't Just America that won the war
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Jun 22 2005, 04:57 PM
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"we didnt need america, we couldve taken hitler on our own!!"
Quote me on that, and I am not being ungrateful, I am glad we had America, All I am saying is it wasn't Just America that won the war

I never said that you said that, I'm just saying people that do. Even if other Americans don't realize that we did have help in WWII, I do. I'm just as thankful for the British, Russian, and other forces that helped defeat Hitler's army. :)
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Jun 22 2005, 08:58 AM
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"we didnt need america, we couldve taken hitler on our own!!"
Quote me on that, and I am not being ungrateful, I am glad we had America, All I am saying is it wasn't Just America that won the war

I never said that you said that, I'm just saying people that do. Even if other Americans don't realize that we did have help in WWII, I do. I'm just as thankful for the British, Russian, and other forces that helped defeat Hitler's army. :)

Same here even if we did give you supplies, weapons, ammunition and personel......
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Oh geez, here we go... The typical American sense of superiority, and European nationalism exhibited by the members here. It's like WWII all over again! :P You people really need to stop. Now! Nobody won the war, there were only losers. The Americans shouldn't be so proud of their achievement which killed thousands of Germans (and trust me on this, the Germans are not an evil people), really.

Think about this: What if the U.S. did not get involved? Hitler would've taken over Europe as a whole, and possibly even the rest of the world. A lot of jews and other -in his eyes- "untermenschen" would've died, I suppose. Then Hitler would've died a natural death, the world would've restored itself, and the nations of Europe would've united in a single glorious utopia like they're trying to establish right now (EU). The problem would've solved itself, and a lot of meaningless American and German deaths would not have occurred.

Those undone casualties of war probably make up for the number of people that would've been slaughtered by Hitlers hand. Also, the Cold War wouldn't ever have happened.
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Jun 22 2005, 05:29 PM
Oh geez, here we go... The typical American sense of superiority, and European nationalism exhibited by the members here. It's like WWII all over again! :P You people really need to stop. Now! Nobody won the war, there were only losers. The Americans shouldn't be so proud of their achievement which killed thousands of Germans (and trust me on this, the Germans are not an evil people), really.

Think about this: What if the U.S. did not get involved? Hitler would've taken over Europe as a whole, and possibly even the rest of the world. A lot of jews and other -in his eyes- "untermenschen" would've died, I suppose. Then Hitler would've died a natural death, the world would've restored itself, and the nations of Europe would've united in a single glorious utopia like they're trying to establish right now (EU). The problem would've solved itself, and a lot of meaningless American and German deaths would not have occurred.

But the Jews and other races don't count as meaningless? After Hitler died, it would have been easy for one of his other executives to take his place and continue Hitler's path. 6 million Jews alone were put through hell and killed, along with millions of gays, blacks, and others. To let Hitler continue on that path would be absolutely stupid.
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If pearl harbor wasn't bombed The americans wouldn't help because japs could't read maps
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So you would want to live under Nazi rule until Hitler died? Man that is dumb....no offense but all we did was speed it up and we where superior in that war.....in fact if it wasn't for us Europe would have crumbled. And I believe that the sacrafices those men mde are worth and all should be honored not just under one country but under a union. And no one said all German where evil just the ones that murdered all those jews.....even if that is my great-grandfather.

EDIT: @gamelife121 don't be racist twards Japanese and they where very good at reading maps.......sounds like to me you don't know jack crap about WW II
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I anit meaning to be racist and i now a lot as my grand-dad Was a Staff Sergent Instructor then he went into fight in india he took a camera along
Most of America's strageys were good but loads could of been changed to save 100 of 1000's of peoples life's and get peace quiker
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Jun 22 2005, 09:50 AM
I anit meaning to be racist and i now a lot as my grand-dad Was a Staff Sergent Instructor then he went into fight in india he took a camera along
Most of America's strageys were good but loads could of been changed to save 100 of 1000's of peoples life's and get peace quiker

They didn't really know what was going to happen.......all they could do was pray everything went well. You really should read whole topic before replying...this was just discussed.
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