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Who is first in your life?
Topic Started: Jul 11 2005, 02:03 AM (1,274 Views)
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Jul 12 2005, 10:03 PM
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Jul 11 2005, 10:21 PM
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Jul 12 2005, 03:15 AM
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Jul 11 2005, 10:11 PM
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Jul 11 2005, 09:35 PM
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Jul 12 2005, 02:33 AM
deeffg
Jul 11 2005, 09:28 PM
I didn't say I resented him I said I resented his opinion. I am therefore not flaming him. Second of all, I am not trying to force my opinions on others I am just critiquing his opinion which may or may not have an opinion-changing effect on him. As for your last comment that is what I am doing so I don't see where your going with that point. They may be rude but it is at least the truth.

Well do it maturely, it helps your credability a lot ;)

Hahaha, maturity is all an opinion. Just because I sometimes sound bitter, which I am not, don't get me wrong I'm a nice guy, doesn't mean I am any less mature. In fact, many people might say I am more mature if I have reasons to justify my 'rude' responses. Don't get maturity confused with niceties.

The ability to convey thoughts effectively and respecfully comes with maturity <_<

Rude thoughts are more effective than you may think apparently. Ever seen children after coming out of a boot camp?

I respect the opinions of everyone.

I beg to differ. Rude thoughts are never okay I don't think. Even harshness can be conveyed more effectively than:

"Why do people keep saying this may sound. YOU ARE SELFISH. No, sound to it. You just are."

We are designed to naturally preserve our own lives. It isn't uncommon for someone to value themselves more than others. I mean I bet if a lot of us looked inside ourselves we would see that we hold ourself highly as well as we hold others highly. It is foolish to think that you don't value yourself as well, it is human nautre, not selfishness.

I'm not saying I don't value my life. I don't exactly think I'm a piece of trash. I don't like his opinion but I respect it I just don't like the fact he valaues his own life above others.

It is the truth what I said though. It is selfish. It is selfish when you keep a bar of chocolate with plenty of pieces to share and it is selfish to keep yourself alive to let another die.

It is human nature to value your life against others in moments of peril. Is it "honorable?" I don't really think so, but I don't think it is necessarily selfish. I could see most people preserving their life over another just due to the genetic makeup of humans.

This is a fun debate :P

Well, I wouldn't, ever. So it isn't of my human nature.

By the way, see these are good debates.

Eh, just because it is human nature doesn't mean there aren't outliers.

outliers?
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God and Jesus are a tie for me. They deserve the upmost repsect in my life. God, for creating me, and Jesus for dying for my sins.
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Jul 12 2005, 05:07 PM
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Jul 12 2005, 10:03 PM
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Jul 12 2005, 04:34 PM
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Jul 12 2005, 03:24 AM
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Jul 11 2005, 10:21 PM
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Jul 11 2005, 10:11 PM
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Jul 11 2005, 09:35 PM
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Jul 12 2005, 02:33 AM
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Jul 11 2005, 09:28 PM
I didn't say I resented him I said I resented his opinion. I am therefore not flaming him. Second of all, I am not trying to force my opinions on others I am just critiquing his opinion which may or may not have an opinion-changing effect on him. As for your last comment that is what I am doing so I don't see where your going with that point. They may be rude but it is at least the truth.

Well do it maturely, it helps your credability a lot ;)

Hahaha, maturity is all an opinion. Just because I sometimes sound bitter, which I am not, don't get me wrong I'm a nice guy, doesn't mean I am any less mature. In fact, many people might say I am more mature if I have reasons to justify my 'rude' responses. Don't get maturity confused with niceties.

The ability to convey thoughts effectively and respecfully comes with maturity <_<

Rude thoughts are more effective than you may think apparently. Ever seen children after coming out of a boot camp?

I respect the opinions of everyone.

I beg to differ. Rude thoughts are never okay I don't think. Even harshness can be conveyed more effectively than:

"Why do people keep saying this may sound. YOU ARE SELFISH. No, sound to it. You just are."

We are designed to naturally preserve our own lives. It isn't uncommon for someone to value themselves more than others. I mean I bet if a lot of us looked inside ourselves we would see that we hold ourself highly as well as we hold others highly. It is foolish to think that you don't value yourself as well, it is human nautre, not selfishness.

I'm not saying I don't value my life. I don't exactly think I'm a piece of trash. I don't like his opinion but I respect it I just don't like the fact he valaues his own life above others.

It is the truth what I said though. It is selfish. It is selfish when you keep a bar of chocolate with plenty of pieces to share and it is selfish to keep yourself alive to let another die.

It is human nature to value your life against others in moments of peril. Is it "honorable?" I don't really think so, but I don't think it is necessarily selfish. I could see most people preserving their life over another just due to the genetic makeup of humans.

This is a fun debate :P

Well, I wouldn't, ever. So it isn't of my human nature.

By the way, see these are good debates.

Eh, just because it is human nature doesn't mean there aren't outliers.

outliers?

Eh, like, away from the standard. So if 98/100 people listen to Rock and 2/100 listen to Rap they are outliers.

I am saying that it is rare to find a person who honestly doesn't value themself over others.
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Oooook. Never heard that word used in a sentence in all my life ever. Think you might have spelled it wrong?
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Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated
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Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.
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Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm
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Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm

lol, now I can't believe they put that on the site. Anyways, I still believe most people would want to save their loved ones more than themselves.
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Jul 12 2005, 05:20 PM
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Jul 12 2005, 10:12 PM
Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm

lol, now I can't believe they put that on the site. Anyways, I still believe most people would want to save their loved ones more than themselves.

Possibly there loved ones, but it is rare these days to find a teenager/kid who truly loves or even likes there family. There is so much inner family abuse in today's world that it isn't even funny :(
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deeffg
Jul 12 2005, 05:13 PM
Ghetto Oracle
Jul 12 2005, 10:12 PM
Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm

lol, now I can't believe they put that on the site. Anyways, I still believe most people would want to save their loved ones more than themselves.

Possibly there loved ones, but it is rare these days to find a teenager/kid who truly loves or even likes there family. There is so much inner family abuse in today's world that it isn't even funny :(

Well, that too is wrong and not human nature. They gave birth to you. The least you could give is your own life.
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deeffg
Jul 12 2005, 05:20 PM
Ghetto Oracle
Jul 12 2005, 10:14 PM
deeffg
Jul 12 2005, 05:13 PM
Ghetto Oracle
Jul 12 2005, 10:12 PM
Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm

lol, now I can't believe they put that on the site. Anyways, I still believe most people would want to save their loved ones more than themselves.

Possibly there loved ones, but it is rare these days to find a teenager/kid who truly loves or even likes there family. There is so much inner family abuse in today's world that it isn't even funny :(

Well, that too is wrong and not human nature. They gave birth to you. The least you could give is your own life.

It isn't right, but yeah, it is human nature. People strive to protect themselfs, it is how we are wired and how we operate. NOT all of us. But for the general population it is true. I never said it is right <_<
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Jul 12 2005, 10:12 PM
Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm

lol, now I can't believe they put that on the site. Anyways, I still believe most people would want to save their loved ones more than themselves.

Possibly there loved ones, but it is rare these days to find a teenager/kid who truly loves or even likes there family. There is so much inner family abuse in today's world that it isn't even funny :(

Well, that too is wrong and not human nature. They gave birth to you. The least you could give is your own life.

It isn't right, but yeah, it is human nature. People strive to protect themselfs, it is how we are wired and how we operate. NOT all of us. But for the general population it is true. I never said it is right <_<

For you is it true? I don't believe you ever posted 'Who is first in your life?', even though, that happens to be the subject of this conversation and topic.
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Jul 12 2005, 10:12 PM
Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm

lol, now I can't believe they put that on the site. Anyways, I still believe most people would want to save their loved ones more than themselves.

Possibly there loved ones, but it is rare these days to find a teenager/kid who truly loves or even likes there family. There is so much inner family abuse in today's world that it isn't even funny :(

Well, that too is wrong and not human nature. They gave birth to you. The least you could give is your own life.

It isn't right, but yeah, it is human nature. People strive to protect themselfs, it is how we are wired and how we operate. NOT all of us. But for the general population it is true. I never said it is right <_<

For you is it true? I don't believe you ever posted 'Who is first in your life?', even though, that happens to be the subject of this conversation and topic.

Read up :)

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Jul 12 2005, 10:12 PM
Outlier- An outlier is a data point that is located far from the rest of the data. Given a mean and standard deviation, a statistical distribution expects data points to fall within a specific range. Those that do not are called outliers and should be investigated

I'm thinking you added that investigation part.

Jeeze, I thought I had a remotely good reputation to where I didn't need to put sources:

http://www.isixsigma.com/dictionary/Outlier-292.htm

lol, now I can't believe they put that on the site. Anyways, I still believe most people would want to save their loved ones more than themselves.

Possibly there loved ones, but it is rare these days to find a teenager/kid who truly loves or even likes there family. There is so much inner family abuse in today's world that it isn't even funny :(

Well, that too is wrong and not human nature. They gave birth to you. The least you could give is your own life.

It isn't right, but yeah, it is human nature. People strive to protect themselfs, it is how we are wired and how we operate. NOT all of us. But for the general population it is true. I never said it is right <_<

For you is it true? I don't believe you ever posted 'Who is first in your life?', even though, that happens to be the subject of this conversation and topic.

Read up :)

Quote:
 
God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, in no particular order ^_^

hehe, whoops. Now I remember that post.
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First in my life is my uncle who loves me to no beyond. Second is my cousin who got ran over by a semi :'(
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