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IPB 2.1.0 final :)
Topic Started: Sep 13 2005, 10:57 AM (1,793 Views)
Surferdude
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Hm... I might look at the code and try to do some mods. I havent looked at the 2.1 changes much because nothing is definate, especially in a pre-release.

This is hopefully a sign that the development for IP.D is going to be first priority for IPS, for now atleast.
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Tadamichi
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Rocky
Sep 13 2005, 04:09 PM
I can't be bothered to upgrade at the minute. :rolleyes:

Didn't you upgrade to RC2 anyway? I remember a topic asking for help :P

Anyway I am in the process of upgrading now :)
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Scott T
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Surferdude18213
Sep 13 2005, 08:38 PM
Hm... I might look at the code and try to do some mods. I havent looked at the 2.1 changes much because nothing is definate, especially in a pre-release.

This is hopefully a sign that the development for IP.D is going to be first priority for IPS, for now atleast.

Yep, I hope development on IP Dynamic comes soon after ^_^
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Postulate
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I would get an IPB license, but quite frankly, the features it offers are not worth the money you pay.
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PWND!
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If I was going to pay for a board, I would get vB, as it is generally much better. Or pay myself to code one ;)
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MrsSim
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PWND!
Sep 13 2005, 09:25 PM
If I was going to pay for a board, I would get vB, as it is generally much better. Or pay myself to code one ;)

vBulletin is definetly not worth the money. It is plagarised material, managed by aggresive and abusive staff, and with the worst programming on the planet. Not only that, it is such a memory hog. There are hundreds of people who got away from vBulletin, and are proud of it.

By the way, you haven't seen how vBulletin manages SQL. When you see that, you will choke to death, seeing how poorly it manages database connection.

If I were you, I'd stay away from vBulletin and never go back.

Prismatic Hero
Sep 13 2005, 08:59 PM
I would get an IPB license, but quite frankly, the features it offers are not worth the money you pay.

Oh yes they are. You have to try a demo before you buy though.
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How the hell do I get a liscence for this thing ?!?! I so want an IPB 2 !!!
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MythicalDreams
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Buy one. Go to www.invisionboard.com and look from there. I will go try and find the buy link :lol:

EDIT: http://www.invisionboard.com/customer/orde...?shop_cat=1,3,4 The link to buy either a one year license or a lifetime one.
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MrsSim
Sep 14 2005, 01:26 PM
PWND!
Sep 13 2005, 09:25 PM
If I was going to pay for a board, I would get vB, as it is generally much better. Or pay myself to code one ;)

vBulletin is definetly not worth the money. It is plagarised material, managed by aggresive and abusive staff, and with the worst programming on the planet. Not only that, it is such a memory hog. There are hundreds of people who got away from vBulletin, and are proud of it.

By the way, you haven't seen how vBulletin manages SQL. When you see that, you will choke to death, seeing how poorly it manages database connection.

If I were you, I'd stay away from vBulletin and never go back.

Prismatic Hero
Sep 13 2005, 08:59 PM
I would get an IPB license, but quite frankly, the features it offers are not worth the money you pay.

Oh yes they are. You have to try a demo before you buy though.

You seem to hate vB for no legitimate reasons. It has some advantages over IPB (and vice versa). I don't see what makes it so bad.

Plagiarism -- IPB has copied ideas from vB and vB has copied ideas from IPB. Both software are very competitive, and I don't see anything wrong with "copying" ideas to stay in the competition, as long as they aren't implemented in the exact same way.

As for the support, if that's true, how come I almost always hear about IPB's support being awful compared to vBs? Plus, if you do a search on both forums you'll see many more forums moving from IPB to vB (yes, even 2.x), as opposed to vB to IPB.

I can't decide which one's better at the moment, they're too close and therefore it comes down to opinion. Depends on what options you want. vB has more general options for the board, and the AJAX is better implemented. IPB on the other hand, has an implemented warning system, topic multi moderation and multi quote. I'd probably go for IPB since I'm more used to it, but vB overall seems like a better software.


And I've seen the admin cp of IPB 2.x, it's cool but there's nothing overly special, and the tabbed feature makes it harder to browse (they should have an option to switch back to the default view). If you want to start a business or something, then go for it (although more big forums use vB). However, if you are just creating a chill out forum, I don't see the point in wasting hundreds of dollars on something that has a few more options and goodies than something you can get for free.
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You may also want to note that logically you cannot argue this point. It's a preference issue, toss it out. Besides, when arguing two products as a consumer you're biased so your arguments are not valid either. You'd have to have Consumer Report overview the two before anyone can say which is better or not. PWND!! likes vB. MrsSim likes IPB. I like IF.

:S

it's all the same baby.
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Kman
Sep 14 2005, 09:28 AM
MrsSim
Sep 14 2005, 01:26 PM
PWND!
Sep 13 2005, 09:25 PM
If I was going to pay for a board, I would get vB, as it is generally much better. Or pay myself to code one ;)

vBulletin is definetly not worth the money. It is plagarised material, managed by aggresive and abusive staff, and with the worst programming on the planet. Not only that, it is such a memory hog. There are hundreds of people who got away from vBulletin, and are proud of it.

By the way, you haven't seen how vBulletin manages SQL. When you see that, you will choke to death, seeing how poorly it manages database connection.

If I were you, I'd stay away from vBulletin and never go back.

Prismatic Hero
Sep 13 2005, 08:59 PM
I would get an IPB license, but quite frankly, the features it offers are not worth the money you pay.

Oh yes they are. You have to try a demo before you buy though.

You seem to hate vB for no legitimate reasons. It has some advantages over IPB (and vice versa). I don't see what makes it so bad.

See the replies to your statement below for my legitimate reasons why I absolutely despise vB.

Plagiarism -- IPB has copied ideas from vB and vB has copied ideas from IPB. Both software are very competitive, and I don't see anything wrong with "copying" ideas to stay in the competition, as long as they aren't implemented in the exact same way.

I'm talking WAY before IPB was even started, when Jelsoft (ugh, disgusting name :X ) first released vBulletin, when UBB and Infopop dominated the messageboard worlds. vBulletin was a compilation of features and code that had once belonged to UBB.

As for the support, if that's true, how come I almost always hear about IPB's support being awful compared to vBs?

Wrong. Read this: http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?...pic=188675&st=0.

And this: http://bravo5.org/blog/2005/06/08/vbulletin-sucks/

And this: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=22730
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=22795

So you see, vBulletin doesn't have such great support. Especially with staff who can't even keep track of honestly bought software.


Plus, if you do a search on both forums you'll see many more forums moving from IPB to vB (yes, even 2.x), as opposed to vB to IPB.

It's the bittersweet poisining of Jelsoft. They constantly advertise on the Adsense programs to make a point, and lure other board users to them.

I can't decide which one's better at the moment, they're too close and therefore it comes down to opinion. Depends on what options you want. vB has more general options for the board, and the AJAX is better implemented. IPB on the other hand, has an implemented warning system, topic multi moderation and multi quote. I'd probably go for IPB since I'm more used to it, but vB overall seems like a better software.

Your choice.

And I've seen the admin cp of IPB 2.x, it's cool but there's nothing overly special, and the tabbed feature makes it harder to browse (they should have an option to switch back to the default view). If you want to start a business or something, then go for it (although more big forums use vB). However, if you are just creating a chill out forum, I don't see the point in wasting hundreds of dollars on something that has a few more options and goodies than something you can get for free.

Alex Duggan, one of the staff of IPB, had paid (before becoming staff) for IPB to build a General Chat community.

And just because bigger forums use vBulletin doesn't mean it's necessarily great. It's like peer presure almost; you see your peers performing illegal operations, and they tell you it's cool, so you follow suit, and then you'll regret the day you get caught.

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Personally I've never used VB but I have seen some forums use it, I registered on one and their system that I have seen/used is horrible IPB is the way to go :) Anyway can we not turn this into a debate between VB and IPB?
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Whatever Mrssim, I respect your opinion. Just a few points to note: I've heard another story by a vB official that they did not copy UBB. They gave their end of the story and it seemed feasible, and made more sense than vB copying UBB or whatever. I'm not sure which one's true though.

As for those topics you linked to, I've seen many, many more complimentary topics on vB than on IPB. I've seen many more complaint topics about support on IPB than vB. From what I've seen, therefore, it looks like IPB is not doing so well support wise, possibly because they have just moved into the business world whereas Jelsoft's software was always commercial. I'm sure IPB will improve their support service with time though.

Btw, I didn't like vB better because of peer pressure. I've tried out each of the demos of IPB and vB for awhile, and from my experience, vB was a more capable forum. Whoever goes for vB because all the big forums use it are narrow-minded fuk heads.

In any case, whichever you think is better, that's fine, because they're very close software and each has advantages and disadvantages over the other. To say vB is much worse than IPB, though, sounds like you're bashing the software. No offense. Did Jelsoft do anything to personally upset you?
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