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Obama - Inftanticide; How sick and evil can someone get?
Topic Started: Jul 10 2008, 06:03 PM (1,300 Views)
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He turned down the bill because it had language that would overthrow the Roe vs. Wade case.

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Leaves, although I have no idea why you're no longer staff, the borderline flaming at the beginning of this topic really make me wonder. If it were my choice, you'd be cast out of that group in a second, because I don't believe there's anything honorable about you or what you've done.

But, to keep on topic, i'll give you my opinion on this matter:

Abortion and infanticide, as Mortek has tried to explain, are two different things. I'm quite sure Obama doesn't support the killing of babies, especially after they've been delivered or have been through a certain stage in development (fetuses, really).
Now, I don't often keep track of the presidential candidates, nor do I really ever watch the news, but Obama doesn't seem like a baby-killing maniac to me. Infact, he comes off as being very intelligent, and as such, i'm willing to bet you just misunderstood what he had said/stated. This whole obsession with infanticide and the like isn't going to help in the least, especially when you don't seem to be making any sense when you're arguing against the people who support abortion (which, as I had said earlier, is completely different from infanticide). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide v. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion

As much as i'd like to post more about this, I feel like you're just going to misinterpret the whole thing, Leaves. Believe me when I say you're arguing for a just thing, and there's nothing wrong with that, but you need to tone it down a bit when someone's saying something you don't wish to hear, or believe. You may think Obama is some baby-killing fanatic, and that's your right, but obsessing over it enough to actually get banned from a forum.. well, that's pretty over-the-top, if you ask me.
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:no: You can argue about this for years, but I don't see any sense in this. Why argue about abortions and infantcide. Lots of that srtuff happens everyday in the US and all over the world and we can't do anything about it.

(BTW, Barack Obama is friends with Hilary Clinton and he is trying to push evolution is schools.)

I'm not getting involved in this topic argument.
Edited by .619iuh, Jul 13 2008, 09:27 AM.
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Jul 13 2008, 09:25 AM
:no: You can argue about this for years, but I don't see any sense in this. Why argue about abortions and infantcide. Lots of that srtuff happens everyday in the US and all over the world and we can't do anything about it.

(BTW, Barack Obama is friends with Hilary Clinton and he is trying to push evolution is schools.)

I'm not getting involved in this topic argument.
Evolution is already in schools because it is the foundation of BIOLOGY.
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Mortek
Jul 13 2008, 04:02 PM
619inurhouse
Jul 13 2008, 09:25 AM
:no: You can argue about this for years, but I don't see any sense in this. Why argue about abortions and infantcide. Lots of that srtuff happens everyday in the US and all over the world and we can't do anything about it.

(BTW, Barack Obama is friends with Hilary Clinton and he is trying to push evolution is schools.)

I'm not getting involved in this topic argument.
Evolution is already in schools because it is the foundation of BIOLOGY.
Creation is still taught in many schools. Even we had a tiny bit on it. Point is, both are in, regardless of what people think. I personally take evolution to be true, but I don't have any die-heart problems with Creation being taught, I just think evolution should be known to the students too.
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Woody.
Jul 13 2008, 06:22 PM
Mortek
Jul 13 2008, 04:02 PM
619inurhouse
Jul 13 2008, 09:25 AM
:no: You can argue about this for years, but I don't see any sense in this. Why argue about abortions and infantcide. Lots of that srtuff happens everyday in the US and all over the world and we can't do anything about it.

(BTW, Barack Obama is friends with Hilary Clinton and he is trying to push evolution is schools.)

I'm not getting involved in this topic argument.
Evolution is already in schools because it is the foundation of BIOLOGY.
Creation is still taught in many schools. Even we had a tiny bit on it. Point is, both are in, regardless of what people think. I personally take evolution to be true, but I don't have any die-heart problems with Creation being taught, I just think evolution should be known to the students too.
Creationism is not in public schools, unless in the bible belt, even then I believe it's rare.

It should be tossed out imo, there is no scientific basis and no benefit of learning it.
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Mortek
Jul 13 2008, 07:49 PM
Woody.
Jul 13 2008, 06:22 PM
Mortek
Jul 13 2008, 04:02 PM
619inurhouse
Jul 13 2008, 09:25 AM
:no: You can argue about this for years, but I don't see any sense in this. Why argue about abortions and infantcide. Lots of that srtuff happens everyday in the US and all over the world and we can't do anything about it.

(BTW, Barack Obama is friends with Hilary Clinton and he is trying to push evolution is schools.)

I'm not getting involved in this topic argument.
Evolution is already in schools because it is the foundation of BIOLOGY.
Creation is still taught in many schools. Even we had a tiny bit on it. Point is, both are in, regardless of what people think. I personally take evolution to be true, but I don't have any die-heart problems with Creation being taught, I just think evolution should be known to the students too.
Creationism is not in public schools, unless in the bible belt, even then I believe it's rare.

It should be tossed out imo, there is no scientific basis and no benefit of learning it.
Did you just miss my post? Yes, it is rare, and yes, it was tiny, but it's not omitted.
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By the by, the remains won't be thrown in the trash.

Possibly a small sample will be held onto in case of genetic analysis needed in future cases but otherwise the remains will be incinerated like all hospital waste.
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-.- Weirdest argument ever. First thing, just because Obama says that he wants to change doesn't automatically mean that he is lying. Second thing, maybe he did vote wrongly on accident. When they vote, they meet in the US Capitol, they discuss the issue, they swipe their ID cards on machine at the end of each row of seats, and they press on the button which reflects their vote. If I were part of the Senate, I would vote wrongly on accident probably 12 times.
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Even so, a war will kill more infants than infanticide ever will. McCain supports war. I'd rather have Obama than McCain, because I really can't handle a draft nor can I really fight.
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What? The opposition is using children to win over sentimental types now? :/ Man, American politics are dirty...
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Although I agree with what you have posted (first post), I have a big problem with the tactics you've used to get your point across. Posting mutilated pictures of a baby for shock value is exactly the same reason these insane vegan morons piss me off more than any other group of people on this piece of floating rock. Shocking people with dramatics and inaccurate pictures is not winning any points with me.
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Well. This is kind of...sad. And representative of what Brain Juice has become. :\

Has NO ONE thought to ask the OP for an actual source on the point they're trying to make? For the record, the fact that it's still even considered infanticide is up to debate. The true term is partial birth abortion - a procedure covered by no law of Congress nor by the landmark Roe v. Wade case - and the procedure is started somewhere around 20 weeks into pregnancy.

Also, to the ONLY other link posted in this topic - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2035878/posts - it doesn't count, for the simple reason that it isn't one of the significant news media - the origin of the story is LifeSiteNews. No verifiable, real news agency or source uses the term 'abortion mills' in an article. No sources, chock-full of bias.

And just to shoot down the original argument even more, comparing anyone (Obama or otherwise) to such an extreme dictator as Hitler (who, heh, ironically support childbirth and actually gave awards for the more children a mother had) or Stalin, automatically drops your argument down a few credibility points.
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Jul 11 2008, 02:14 AM
When I say support, I don't mean to make him out to be some ravaged baby killer. I say support as in, he is doing everything in his power shut down any bill that is against infanticide. Obviously no one openly says its a good thing. However, sitting in the middle ground and saying its a persons choice is morally just as bad. Not impeding on an issue for fear of possibly offending some non existent religion, or to not have to express their views is highly immoral. Easy context: If a person is given the choice to make murder illegal, but stops the bill that makes it illegal, clearly shows that they don't feel strongly against the issue / in my words support it.
That is pure nonsense. Charlo clearly pointed out that Obama was voting in support of a mother's right to an abortion, not infanticide/"baby killing". Just because someone isn't strongly against something, does not mean they are for it. Your argument is basically: "Hey look, Obama isn't voting for having infanticide illegal, so that must mean he supports killing babies". Yeah right... That is on the same level of the Bush administration's argument: "If you don't support the War of Terrorism, than you are against the troops". I call that B.S. Your use of intentional misrepresentation to win an argument and try to crumble people's faith in what has seemed to be a good man says a lot about your character.
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OBama = Hitler. Capitalizes on our problems and makes us feel bad then say he can fix it all. DONT VOTE FOR HIM.
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