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Decline in Music Quality
Topic Started: Oct 2 2008, 08:50 AM (1,187 Views)
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Melancholic
Oct 2 2008, 04:59 PM
Or maybe we just don't like living in the past. :ermm:

While I don't mind the occasional old (80s mostly) song all this Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and AC/DC worship really annoys me. Hundreds of younger bands have take what the dinosaurs made and evolved and refined it. In a way this makes the older music obsolete, however groundbreaking it may have been decades ago. What I'm trying to say is just because a band started something they aren't necessarily the best at it.

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That was a reply to Menindrag.
I don't like them either. Classic rock is a genre which really bores me.

What I was saying is that pioneers where pre-00 in all genres. Rock, jazz, hip hop, blues, EDM, industrial, pop, avant garde, classical etc. The only main genre I can find that was invented in 00 is Dubstep but even that has routes in 60 & 70s reggae and dub... wether they are the best of it is personal opinion but I beleive that the high quality music has gone down hill.

I'm not saying modern music is sh!t, far from it. What I'm saying is that we have entered a saturation period of rock music as we know it. EDM is trying to find something new, classical died out years ago and I'm frankly not up to speed with modern jazz.
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Menindrag
Oct 2 2008, 05:08 PM
Melancholic
Oct 2 2008, 04:59 PM
Or maybe we just don't like living in the past. :ermm:

While I don't mind the occasional old (80s mostly) song all this Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and AC/DC worship really annoys me. Hundreds of younger bands have take what the dinosaurs made and evolved and refined it. In a way this makes the older music obsolete, however groundbreaking it may have been decades ago. What I'm trying to say is just because a band started something they aren't necessarily the best at it.

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That was a reply to Menindrag.
I don't like them either. Classic rock is a genre which really bores me.

What I was saying is that pioneers where pre-00 in all genres. Rock, jazz, hip hop, blues, EDM, industrial, pop, avant garde, classical etc. The only main genre I can find that was invented in 00 is Dubstep but even that has routes in 60 & 70s reggae and dub... wether they are the best of it is personal opinion but I beleive that the high quality music has gone down hill.

I'm not saying modern music is sh!t, far from it. What I'm saying is that we have entered a saturation period of rock music as we know it. EDM is trying to find something new, classical died out years ago and I'm frankly not up to speed with modern jazz.
Needs more New Weird America.

Anyway, everything could probably be traced back through time until the very beginning of music, so you can't really use that as a point. Everything derived from something that came before.
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Cynic's new album seems pretty cool.
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I believe it,especially people who don't listen to music. They all say that it sounds the same,those who listen to music may not be able to tell the difference because they may favour music in a biast thought.
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Oct 2 2008, 07:55 PM
I believe it,especially people who don't listen to music. They all say that it sounds the same,those who listen to music may not be able to tell the difference because they may favour music in a biast thought.
Isn't bias thought the whole point of preference? Isn't it impossible to not prefer one genre over another? If it were possible, then there would be no point to music at all. We could just listen to static.
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Melancholic
Oct 2 2008, 02:16 PM
No, not really. :ermm: While there is obviously a lot of bad music out there there always has been.
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No. You just need to look harder.
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Viva la Vida - Coldplay
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Most "popular" and mainstream music is crap, if you dig deeper you will find many many less known bands that are just as good or better than the popular bands.
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Oct 3 2008, 08:55 PM
Viva la Vida - Coldplay
I thought that was one of their better songs. :P

There has, and always will be, music that you love and music you dislike. What you like, somebody else might dislike. Vice-versa.
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I call rubbish. Good music is still out there, you just have to look for it. In the past few years I've listened to many great new albums, bands like TV On The Radio continue to innovent and make music in their own style, and while I love the Beatles, Pink Floyd, the Rolling Stones et all, I like many newer bands as well. As someone said in earlier, there has always been shit music, it's not a recent thing.

And it's absolute tosh to say the price of producing a CD has led to albums in general being bad these days, if you look at bands like Radiohead, The National, The Arcade Fire and loads more recent bands they have very solid and consistent discographies, why? Nothing to do with the price of making a CD, because they care about their music. Shockingly poor article.

And it sounds to be that the writer is more disillusioned at what music is than anything else.
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Quote:
 
Lo-fi Music
A trend towards hi-fi equipment was dramatically reversed at the turn of the century with the widespread diffusion of lo-fi equipment. Whether the laptop or an MP3 player or a iPod, the device of choise to listen to music became a relatively low-quality device.


Now that is the good stuff from the article I thought this topic was going to be solely about. Music quality in the sense of the devise is greatly being reduced. Music in the form of Mp3 is complete rubbish compared to listening to that same song on a record player. If anyone wants to look into something interesting, that is a very fun topic to read about.
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Nahh musics only getting better, music is gonna get mediocre with guitars. bass and drums with average players playing same old. But there's plenty of bands who put more thought into it and play original tunes. Plus Drum'n'Bass and Grime, my favourite genre's are brilliant now
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The reason it seems like musical quality is declining is because it is just too damn easy to start a band now, and with few exceptional musicians, more bands = more bad music.
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I don't care what he or anyone else thinks. Artists like Adele and Duffy have recently put out albums that were high in quality as far as lyrics and instrumentals go. There are many other artists that continue to impress me, and you just have to look hard enough for them. It's also a subjective subject.
Edited by Excella, Oct 23 2008, 03:35 PM.
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Perhaps, it really just depends on who's doing their research and who isn't lol. Music is just an art that eventually will change into something new. If we were still making the same stuff we did back in the 70s I would never appreciate bands like Genesis and Pink Floyd. It's no different than someone who says, man I wish people still made art now like they did in the renaissance.

Personally I think the most successful bands are the bands that are influenced by bands that came at an earlier time, and the bands that set those new trends that are references for years to come. Some bands are going to "get it" and other bands aren't. I think it's important to know your place in the history of music before you start making some good stuff. The Beatles, those guys knew just about everything when it came to music: lyrics, rhythm, style, literally everything. As a result, it's still referencing bands we hear today even if it isn't exactly obvious.

One thought of mine is that maybe the issue here is the public. Audience has always been a large part of what makes something popular, and people in the 60s were absolutely nuts for the bands that were extremely important. Some people like me kind of understand that there is a time and place for every band. We need progressive rock for the people that appreciate technical music that takes time and patience to make and preform songs. We need metal for the people that want to feel powerful while listening to something because I'm sure to some degree we all kind of like that feeling that we're indestructible. We need pop for the people that love to be a fan of that one person that makes a strong connection to an audience. What I'm trying to say is, all music genre's are important to everyone cause if there was no connection made to anyone, it simply wouldn't go. So ultimately, music goes where the people take it. Artists that don't make connections to people won't ever get noticed, artists that make pieces that speak to the major audience are going to get the biggest recognition. As a prog rock fan I know it will never be in the front of the spotlight just because of the way this world is lol. People don't connect to the things they don't understand so they would rather label some genre of music or some song or band as weird, or odd, or whatever comes to their mind just so they'll stay comfortable you know? That's just the way we think lol. What we need is another Beatles. A band that people of all ages and places can connect to because they got their music down to the core of what we think and feel. There hasn't been a band like that for a long time.
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