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Barack Obama is the next President of the USA
Topic Started: Nov 5 2008, 12:08 AM (4,729 Views)
Jia
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Yay.

That's all.
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i was in shock and awe last night. i went to get the paper to read about it and 20 stores in a 15 miles radius sold out all newspapers. amazing.
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Congrats To Obama :)

I am glad that he won he was the candidate that I believe would set America in a new direction towards being the great nation it was before the wrath of George Bush. I wont go into bashing Bush anymore as some people may of liked him but over the past 8 years Americas reputation in the world has been damaged and I believe that Obama is the best man to repair that damaged reputation.
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Sad day for America. We will now become a socialist, government controlled and all our rights will be taken away. Gun rights, our money will be distributed, and so on. When things get bad for Obama, he won't have anyone to blame since he and the Dems control everything...so all you who voted for Obama don't go complaining. I just hope we don't have a major incident because Obama won't be able to handle it. Should be fun 4 years seeing all Obama's mistakes he is going to make and I hope the media who love him go after him on it like they did Bush. I will not congratulate Obama, I will not have a president for 4 years. Lookout in 4 years, we Republicans will take back the White House.
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dad2paisley
Nov 5 2008, 12:52 PM
Sad day for America. We will now become a socialist, government controlled and all our rights will be taken away. Gun rights, our money will be distributed, and so on. When things get bad for Obama, he won't have anyone to blame since he and the Dems control everything...so all you who voted for Obama don't go complaining. I just hope we don't have a major incident because Obama won't be able to handle it. Should be fun 4 years seeing all Obama's mistakes he is going to make and I hope the media who love him go after him on it like they did Bush. I will not congratulate Obama, I will not have a president for 4 years. Lookout in 4 years, we Republicans will take back the White House.
Socialist my ass. When will you right wing fools cut this crap? If you don't like him by all means leave, we have enough people like you here as it is.
Edited by Justin-ZNS, Nov 5 2008, 12:55 PM.
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Mwr247
Nov 5 2008, 11:01 AM
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RIP USA.... socialism is going to suck
Aye...
It can't be any worse than the mess the country is currently in.

I'm glad Obama won. :)
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Jia
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Justin
Nov 5 2008, 12:54 PM
dad2paisley
Nov 5 2008, 12:52 PM
Sad day for America. We will now become a socialist, government controlled and all our rights will be taken away. Gun rights, our money will be distributed, and so on. When things get bad for Obama, he won't have anyone to blame since he and the Dems control everything...so all you who voted for Obama don't go complaining. I just hope we don't have a major incident because Obama won't be able to handle it. Should be fun 4 years seeing all Obama's mistakes he is going to make and I hope the media who love him go after him on it like they did Bush. I will not congratulate Obama, I will not have a president for 4 years. Lookout in 4 years, we Republicans will take back the White House.
Socialist my ass. When will you right wing fools cut this crap? If you don't like him by all means leave, we have enough people like you here as it is.
Republican hate tactic. They can't win the election properly so of course, he must be a socialist. I mean, there is only 2 views. Republican and Socialist.

That's how it works through most republican eyes. It's a shame they can't be gracoius in defeat like their defeated candidate who I now have more respect for, considering he was not such a terrible loser.
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Jia
Nov 5 2008, 12:58 PM
Justin
Nov 5 2008, 12:54 PM
dad2paisley
Nov 5 2008, 12:52 PM
Sad day for America. We will now become a socialist, government controlled and all our rights will be taken away. Gun rights, our money will be distributed, and so on. When things get bad for Obama, he won't have anyone to blame since he and the Dems control everything...so all you who voted for Obama don't go complaining. I just hope we don't have a major incident because Obama won't be able to handle it. Should be fun 4 years seeing all Obama's mistakes he is going to make and I hope the media who love him go after him on it like they did Bush. I will not congratulate Obama, I will not have a president for 4 years. Lookout in 4 years, we Republicans will take back the White House.
Socialist my ass. When will you right wing fools cut this crap? If you don't like him by all means leave, we have enough people like you here as it is.
Republican hate tactic. They can't win the election properly so of course, he must be a socialist. I mean, there is only 2 views. Republican and Socialist.

That's how it works through most republican eyes. It's a shame they can't be gracoius in defeat like their defeated candidate who I now have more respect for, considering he was not such a terrible loser.
Unfortunately when you deal with fringe elements of either party this philosophy is the same. I think it was a mistake to vote for Obama, but at this point bickering is pointless and people will do it anyway. I expect nothing less from either party, republican or democrat
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Republican hate tactic. They can't win the election properly so of course, he must be a socialist. I mean, there is only 2 views. Republican and Socialist.

That's how it works through most republican eyes. It's a shame they can't be gracoius in defeat like their defeated candidate who I now have more respect for, considering he was not such a terrible loser.
You criticize him for stereotyping, then go onto stereotyping yourself? :/ I'm republican, but as I already said I acknowledge him as the winner and my president, though I'm most definitely not happy about it.

And no, the reason we believe he is socialist is because his views revolve around that of socialism. Take from the rich and give to the poor, universal health care, etc, etc. Basically, big government.

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A definition of socialism, to clear the point:
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Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
Goods can also mean money. So is that not the ultimate plan?
Edited by Mwr247, Nov 5 2008, 01:29 PM.
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Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall.

This talk of socialism is so highly amusing. The doom and gloom is amusing. But now some of you know how half of the country felt for the past 8 years as George Bush slowly destroyed everything his predecessors had accomplished.

Remember: The Supreme Court interprets the law. The 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere soon. So enough of that.

Democrats have been fighting for better healthcare for decades. They do not have the super majority. And that traitor Lieberman will probably be kicked out of the Democratic caucus. So, it's not the end of the world for all you conservatives by a long shot.

Things will change. But it doesn't mean "OH noes! MA $ IS BEING STOLEN!" No more so than any other tax. Watch how the plan actually works, then you can complain. And I wager, when you suddenly need that big expensive medical procedure, you'll be glad you aren't paying out of pocket or wrestling with the insurance company to pay their share.
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Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.


I suppose you could apply that to Alaska then. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20081030/fact-check-palin-socialism/

But that's all I've got left on the issue. There are a few more topics floating around where Jeremy, Ben, and Stephen make a lot of excellent points as well.
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:/ I'm republican, but as I already said I acknowledge him as the winner and my president, though I'm most definitely not happy about it.

That's a good point. I don't have political expertise and don't know if Obama will do a good job, but he's still our president. That's a fact, and there needs to be recognition. Disagreeing or disliking is one thing, but refusing to recognize that is basically lying.
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I know it's not the end of the world (yet :P ), I'm just saying that there will be "change", but I personally feel it's not going to be for the better.

Ah, but you see Justin, unlike some people (I'm not saying anyone here, just people I've talked to in the past), just because I support someone does not mean I think they're perfect in every way and I have to agree with them on everything. But overall I agree with them on much more than I do Obama, which is why they had my support.
Edited by Mwr247, Nov 5 2008, 01:48 PM.
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dad2paisley
Nov 5 2008, 12:52 PM
Sad day for America. We will now become a socialist, government controlled and all our rights will be taken away. Gun rights, our money will be distributed, and so on.
Oh no, you mean we'll all hear less stories in the media about another horrific shooting where innocent school children die? That must really suck for you!
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Stephen
Nov 5 2008, 01:30 PM
Remember: The Supreme Court interprets the law. The 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere soon. So enough of that.
This is an important point to remember, especially for those who fear a Democrat-controlled Washington. Bush appointed four justices in his time, and the Court is fairly right-leaning now (or at least, balanced enough that they won't be overly liberal with their interpretation of the Constitution). They will be a check on those gun-hating, God-hating commies!

I feel sorry for McCain in a way. It really did go downhill after Palin came on board. I still half-believe that someone has pulled the biggest prank in history--on the entire Republican party. I'm waiting for someone to jump out and say, "Kidding!"
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