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| Tanith | Nov 5 2008, 04:17 PM Post #61 |
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I just got it from Wikipedia lol |
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| trevormacster1 | Nov 5 2008, 04:23 PM Post #62 |
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lol wow |
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| TheLetterQ | Nov 5 2008, 05:39 PM Post #63 |
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I want to break free from your lies/ your so self-satisfied/ I don't need you
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Not at all surprising, ever since McCain picked Palin anyone with eyes could see how this would turn out. Its time to move on now. If 2004 was a mandate, this was a landslide. January 20 hes going to be everyone's president, not just the president of those who supported him. Overall, I'm glad the dems didn't get 60 seats. Power corrupts, and while I trust them a little more than the republicans, I'm sure they would screw it up if they were just Obama's rubber stamp. Someone mentioned the cabinet. Im sure it will be bipartisan. Hagel will probably get a position (most likely secdef) along with other Republicans, including possibly Colin Powell. Secstate will probably be Bill Richardson, and Al Gore could probably have Interior or Energy if he wants it, though I doubt he does. All the buzz today is about the White House Chief of Staff: ![]() I would hate to be Rahm Emanuel. He has a choice, either chief of staff on January 20, or Speaker of the House in 4-12 years. I could see him becoming the Chair of the Democratic party if he takes the latter however. One thing that struck me about this election was turnout. Even with all this talk of it being a historic election, turnout was crappy. Its a little under 2004 levels right now, but I could see it going over as significant percentages of Oregon and Washington have yet to report, along with about 5% of Cali precincts. |
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| Stephen | Nov 5 2008, 06:04 PM Post #64 |
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Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall.
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It is interesting reading some of your posts. It proves to me exactly what I feared: you have no idea what you are talking about. The Republicans very successfully whipped up impressionable voters who will believe that there is the word gullible on the ceiling and fed them a bunch of junk about terrorism, socialism etc. My friends, ( ) think for yourself. I supported Obama for his overall ideals. I don't agree 100% with him. I think I will disagree with some of things he will do. But overall his feelings on issues are closer to my own. I spent this election on message boards, on huffingtonpost, on cnn, abc and most importantly of all: factcheck.orgFactcheck did a brilliant job of going through everything and seperating the lies from the truth. And unsurprisingly, both candidates lied. But McCain's were worse. Dangerous at times. Palin's were extremely scary and motivated me to get people to vote against her at the very least (I'd rather see write ins for Colbert over McCain/Palin getting a vote). But that is over now. Does that mean factcheck will stop? I highly doubt it. Obama is even further under the magnifying glass now. His choice of Cabinet is being scrutinized already. His every move from now until 2012 will be watched far closer than Bush or Clinton ever were. This man has an incredible job ahead of him and he knows it. As to the Cabinet. I'd like to see Gore in charge of Energy. And I think Powell should take back his old spot or at least have an advisory role. IF there were anyone worth keeping in Bush's administration it would be Rice, but I think she probably wants to get out now ![]() I'd be curious if the Clintons were offered a spot anywhere. I highly doubt it though. |
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| TheLetterQ | Nov 5 2008, 06:31 PM Post #65 |
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I want to break free from your lies/ your so self-satisfied/ I don't need you
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Hillary will probably be offered health and human services, but it will most likely be more symbolic than anything. |
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| ==Kyuubi== | Nov 5 2008, 07:10 PM Post #66 |
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I liked Palin as a choice for the personality the McCain desperately lacked in his speeches, but more than anything his from the people I talked to at the university said the choice of Palin was the straw that broke the camel's back, and Bush's astoundingly low approval ratings was most at fault. McCain's campaign also lacked the kind of funds and organization Obama had available to him. The last couple of weeks McCain finally got his act together but it was too little too late.
ISome of the people who agree with my views call Obama a socialist, but I think that's the wrong way to put it. Our economy is a mixed economy to begin with, however, there are some places where government can keep the hell out, namely my pockets, and my healthcare. Of course with Obama being the next POTUS, my focus shifts to interest in how he intends to implement his policies. Hopefully if he does start turning the cogs for universal healthcare he'll take lessons from the current medicare fiscal problems, otherwise I'm against a government monopolized health insurance market. Given the current equivalent, I'm not convinced he'll be able to fund such a program efficiently I already pay 20-30% taxes for social security funds I'm not likely to recieve when I retire. As for his for his other policies, he'll satisfy me if he removes the Patriot Act, but I have low expectations of that happening Edited by ==Kyuubi==, Nov 5 2008, 07:16 PM.
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| Gwennie | Nov 5 2008, 10:27 PM Post #67 |
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Older than I look
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I find it very telling that NEVER has a Democratic party presidential candidate been so overwhelmingly accused of being a socialist/having a socialistic agenda....UNTIL it was a black man running.* Very, very telling indeed. (and I have personally been of voting age for NINE USA presidential elections, so I know of what I speak.) * and it's always been the same, basic agenda. Increase public spending for programs like education, health, welfare....and increase taxes on the upper upper class to pay for it. Nothing about that Democratic Party agenda has changed, except it was a black candidate espousing it. |
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| Ben | Nov 6 2008, 02:24 AM Post #68 |
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Quantum-locked when observed.
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While race is a factor, the McCain campaign was under pressure to liberate the Republican party from the spectre of George W. Bush. They had to paint Obama as a less attractive choice for president than McCain in the hopes that those who were voting against McCain to avoid "4 more years of Bush" would be swayed back. |
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| cvn-tv-dip | Nov 6 2008, 02:29 AM Post #69 |
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That's not really fair to do. What state the Republican party is in does not depend on the other party's. Edited by cvn-tv-dip, Nov 6 2008, 02:33 AM.
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| Starlake | Nov 6 2008, 02:35 AM Post #70 |
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Nah
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<3 Oh man am I happy this happened. I'm even happier that my state went blue [Nevada] In other news, I wonder where Lone Stranger is! XD |
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| Ben | Nov 6 2008, 11:43 AM Post #71 |
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Quantum-locked when observed.
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Since when have American politics (or any politics, for that matter) been fair?
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| xcc | Nov 6 2008, 02:03 PM Post #72 |
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Personally I was voting McCain and I was happy that Kentucky was Republican but we didn't make much of a difference, so yeah.
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| cvn-tv-dip | Nov 6 2008, 04:34 PM Post #73 |
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I know that. All the more it shows. |
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| IceMetalPunk | Nov 6 2008, 04:36 PM Post #74 |
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We are all IMPerfect. Be proud!
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I voted for Obama, and I'm glad he won. I do not, however, fall for the propaganda that was spread by both parties during the campaign. While McCain is more likely to agree with Bush's politics, he would not be the same as Bush. Anyone who believes he'd be "Four more years of Bush" is very gullible. Same goes for McCain's slander about Obama making the US a socialist nation. Why is that false? Two reasons: 1) "Socialist" is a scary word. It is almost always associated on some level with communism, and so it strikes fear in the hearts of all. However, communism is only one specific type of socialism. Therefore, communist-inspired emotions probably played a bigger role for the people who believed this propaganda tactic than it should have. True, any country who's tried implementing pure socialism has failed, which only brings me to point number 2. 2) Obama is in no way attempting to convert the US into a socialist nation. Are some of his ideas socialist in nature? Perhaps. But socialist ideas alone can actually be beneficial, if tempered with other restricting forces. The US will always be a mixed economy, and a few policies that encourage national economic health over individual economic health are not going to change that in any major way. Anyway, I wish people would hold off on their Obama attacks until he really does screw up. If he does, you all can say whatever you want, but until then, why spread speculations that only harm our new president's image without any examples of his impact yet? -IMP
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| Tanith | Nov 6 2008, 05:41 PM Post #75 |
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I hope that those people who are Anti-Obama give him a fair chance as president. He has a lot of work ahead of him, more so than a president elect has had to contend with for a long time.
Edited by Tanith, Nov 6 2008, 05:43 PM.
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) think for yourself. I supported Obama for his overall ideals. I don't agree 100% with him. I think I will disagree with some of things he will do. But overall his feelings on issues are closer to my own. I spent this election on message boards, on huffingtonpost, on cnn, abc and most importantly of all: factcheck.org
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