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Another suggestion topic
Topic Started: Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM (1,567 Views)
Pando-ZNS
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Yet another suggestion topic from me. But I've got some really good ones this time.

1): Allow global mods/admins to be be able to see who voted in polls and for what. Will allow some competitions to have polls instead of PMs or replying to a topic.

2): Make a 3 piece h2 built in to Zetaboards without Javascript. If possible get Holysavior's 3 piece h2 classes so that all themes using his 3 piece h2 will have an automatic no-javascript 3 piece h2.

3): Category descriptions. Saw them in a vBulletin forum. A simple th under the h2's with a description of the categories controlled by the Admin CP.

4): The [member][/member] to be able to be used in the Shoutbox.

5): The nocode and member BBCode to have possible BBCode buttons, and for the table and list BBCode to be able to be turned on or off via Admin CP (BBCode button would be too much) and a tutorial on them in the "Full BBCode List".

6): To be able to choose what fonts, colors, BGcolors, and Border Colors can be in the BBCode drop downs without the need of Javascript.

7): As discussed before, customizable FAQ. Possibly give it a whole area in the Admin CP and have admin assistants possibly only have access to the FAQ area.

8): Blog commends and entries to show on the Board Feed.

9): Optional PM whenever a blog comment is posted in one of your blog entries (can be turned on/off in blog options).

10): The option to put the Status Update and/or Board Feed in the #stats td.c_foot a, and if it goes before or after the existing #stats td.c_foot a links.

11): The last one. Tariq told me it's a bug that's currently being worked on, but I don't think it's a big. So for the Status Update list to be ordered by status updates, not who got a status update last.

That's all. Hope these get updated into Zetaboards one day :)
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Out of them all, the 3 piece H2 would be great if it could be something added as standard to boards. Almost every theme uses 3 piece H2's now, and to add that as standard would be a great feature to have. :)
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Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
1): Allow global mods/admins to be be able to see who voted in polls and for what. Will allow some competitions to have polls instead of PMs or replying to a topic.
I wouldn't mind a "see voters" feature for staff.
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
2): Make a 3 piece h2 built in to Zetaboards without Javascript. If possible get Holysavior's 3 piece h2 classes so that all themes using his 3 piece h2 will have an automatic no-javascript 3 piece h2.
I vaguely remember something about this becoming possible with just CSS in the future or something, but I can't find anything on it.
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
3): Category descriptions. Saw them in a vBulletin forum. A simple th under the h2's with a description of the categories controlled by the Admin CP.
Hmmm... I'd think this is something people can pick up on from the forum descriptions, unless it's a general category or something (in which case, they'd notice it's a general category). :P
There's a code floating around ZNR somewhere which puts configurable smaller text below the category title. :P

This idea doesn't really excite me (and it's a simple idea at that), but it's a good small idea.
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
4): The [member][/member] to be able to be used in the Shoutbox.
I've never tried it, but that'd be neat. :)
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
5): The nocode and member BBCode to have possible BBCode buttons, and for the table and list BBCode to be able to be turned on or off via Admin CP (BBCode button would be too much) and a tutorial on them in the "Full BBCode List".
The nocode button, I wouldn't mind. The nocode BBCode is used when talking about BBCode, and you'd think the people talking about BBCode would be somewhat familiar with it. :P

The table BBCode is not complete yet (ever notice how it's still really simple?). When it is, it will get its spot in the ACP and the BBCode list with the others.
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
6): To be able to choose what fonts, colors, BGcolors, and Border Colors can be in the BBCode drop downs without the need of Javascript.
Fonts: If there's one thing you shouldn't get to choose, it's this one. The fonts listed and very few others are "web-safe" fonts, which means they'll be recognized by all browsers on all systems. Other fonts may need to be downloaded or something.
This could have some use when bundled with the use of @font-face in the CSS (it's pretty supported now. Even in IE, but you have to work around that one still). However, it's probably best to just leave it as a JS option.

The other three I think are fine as they are as well, but could benefit from such a feature.
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
7): As discussed before, customizable FAQ. Possibly give it a whole area in the Admin CP and have admin assistants possibly only have access to the FAQ area.
I'll support this one.

But why a new FAQ manager? Why not merge it with webpage manager? :P (At least until/if we get more customizable assistants.)
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
9): Optional PM whenever a blog comment is posted in one of your blog entries (can be turned on/off in blog options).
I vaguely remember hearing about blog subscriptions. But maybe not. This is a good idea, but I would prioritize it with or lower than general board RSS subscriptions.
Edited by ElementalAlchemist, Sep 6 2010, 09:13 AM.
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Sep 6 2010, 08:57 AM
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
2): Make a 3 piece h2 built in to Zetaboards without Javascript. If possible get Holysavior's 3 piece h2 classes so that all themes using his 3 piece h2 will have an automatic no-javascript 3 piece h2.
I vaguely remember something about this becoming possible with just CSS in the future or something, but I can't find anything on it.
That's a 3 piece background. I've only had to use it once, and it doesn't work in IE (strangely though I found out in a very IE-like Firefox in Windows 7 of my college computers :blink: )


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Sep 6 2010, 08:57 AM
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
9): Optional PM whenever a blog comment is posted in one of your blog entries (can be turned on/off in blog options).
I vaguely remember hearing about blog subscriptions. But maybe not. This is a good idea, but I would prioritize it with or lower than general board RSS subscriptions.
If you get a PM you don't need to search anything to know if you got a comment posted, it'll just tell you. It would be very good to bloggers.
Edited by Pando-ZNS, Sep 6 2010, 10:59 AM.
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Sep 6 2010, 10:58 AM
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Sep 6 2010, 08:57 AM
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
2): Make a 3 piece h2 built in to Zetaboards without Javascript. If possible get Holysavior's 3 piece h2 classes so that all themes using his 3 piece h2 will have an automatic no-javascript 3 piece h2.
I vaguely remember something about this becoming possible with just CSS in the future or something, but I can't find anything on it.
That's a 3 piece background. I've only had to use it once, and it doesn't work in IE (strangely though I found out in a very IE-like Firefox in Windows 7 of my college computers :blink: )
1. Er, what else is the 3-piece h2 used for? :P
2. Imagine that. Does anything work in IE? :P
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 10:58 AM
ElementalAlchemist
Sep 6 2010, 08:57 AM
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
9): Optional PM whenever a blog comment is posted in one of your blog entries (can be turned on/off in blog options).
I vaguely remember hearing about blog subscriptions. But maybe not. This is a good idea, but I would prioritize it with or lower than general board RSS subscriptions.
If you get a PM you don't need to search anything to know if you got a comment posted, it'll just tell you. It would be very good to bloggers.
I'd go so far as to assume that's the whole point of subscriptions. Of course. :D I stand by my previous comment.
Edited by ElementalAlchemist, Sep 6 2010, 11:31 AM.
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I guess the multiple background function in CSS3 will allow you to make a 3-piece anything without JS?
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Pete B
Sep 6 2010, 11:33 AM
I guess the multiple background function in CSS3 will allow you to make a 3-piece anything without JS?
Yes, but for now it doesn't appear in IE when you do that and in the case of those Firefox at my college library neither in that.
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Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
1): Allow global mods/admins to be be able to see who voted in polls and for what. Will allow some competitions to have polls instead of PMs or replying to a topic.
Just wanted to say that I support this suggestion fully. This is something that I remember being discussed several times before and something I try to comment on each time I see someone suggest it. The biggest complaint against this idea is that it is supposedly a violation of privacy. Personally, I think it should be an optional feature that the administrator can set to his/her liking. We should be able to decide if we want poll votes to be completely anonymous, open to just admin, open to all staff, or open to all members.
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Cybrus
Sep 6 2010, 11:47 PM
Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
1): Allow global mods/admins to be be able to see who voted in polls and for what. Will allow some competitions to have polls instead of PMs or replying to a topic.
The biggest complaint against this idea is that it is supposedly a violation of privacy. Personally, I think it should be an optional feature that the administrator can set to his/her liking. We should be able to decide if we want poll votes to be completely anonymous, open to just admin, open to all staff, or open to all members.
Completely anonymous - no. Admins could always see the result in ACP. There is no reason to make votes visible for Staff with an Member-controlled option that Staff may not see them. Eventually, this option should be Admin-controlled in ACP. Every poll has its unique ID. Sure, that ID is pretty almost invisible for the duration of the poll, it only appear once, right after we voted in the poll. If all the polls could be logged in ACP, that would be a great for Admins.
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Sep 6 2010, 08:57 AM

Pandorasaurus
Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM
7): As discussed before, customizable FAQ. Possibly give it a whole area in the Admin CP and have admin assistants possibly only have access to the FAQ area.
I'll support this one.

But why a new FAQ manager? Why not merge it with webpage manager? :P (At least until/if we get more customizable assistants.)
Because then Webpage Manager will turn into one big mess. Like now Forum Access is. As for now Forum Access includes Masks for usergroups, for joinable groups, and for alternate groups (which has a mistake - previously it was named as "alternate group", then Brandon changed to "Alternate Permission Set" but its description still refers to "alternate group" /off top). It's very hard to manage all the Masks, when they are sorted in random order of using. The same will be, if FAQ Manager will be added to Webpages - You will die first, before You will be able to find the FAQ page You are looking for among all the other webpages.

Also, for both of Webpages and FAQ, it could not hurt, if they would support not only HTML, but BBCodes as well.
Edited by Nemomon, Sep 7 2010, 06:10 AM.
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Sep 7 2010, 05:55 AM
It's very hard to manage all the Masks, when they are sorted in random order of using.
Use intuitive names, and try not to have more masks than you need. :P
For using, remember:
Members have the mask of their group
Setting a special mask on a member, however, overrides that of the group.
Joinable group masks stack on top of the member's main mask.
Nemomon
Sep 7 2010, 05:55 AM
Also, for both of Webpages and FAQ, it could not hurt, if they would support not only HTML, but BBCodes as well.
Anything you can do in BBCode, you can do in HTML. Seems like a fair amount of extra work for Brandon, for no gain.
Edited by ElementalAlchemist, Sep 7 2010, 08:15 AM.
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ElementalAlchemist
Sep 7 2010, 08:15 AM
Nemomon
Sep 7 2010, 05:55 AM
It's very hard to manage all the Masks, when they are sorted in random order of using.
Use intuitive names, and try not to have more masks than you need. :P
I'm trying to use intuitive names but still, during managing them sometimes I don't remember, who/what actually is using given Mask or, if it already in use by someone/something. "Groups Using" tells us only about usergroups, not about alternate groups or joinable groups.

I see then two possibilities for fixing this:

- "Groups Using" will show all the 3 options of using it (usergroups + joinable groups (with group(s) name) + alternate group(s) (with username(s) of all of its users)
- Giving Admins possibility to create custom Categories (such as Topic AutoTools categories), where Admins will be able to sort them by themselves.

I'm voting for second option.
ElementalAlchemist
Sep 7 2010, 08:15 AM
Nemomon
Sep 7 2010, 05:55 AM
Also, for both of Webpages and FAQ, it could not hurt, if they would support not only HTML, but BBCodes as well.
Anything you can do in BBCode, you can do in HTML. Seems like a fair amount of extra work for Brandon, for no gain.
With gain. Not everyone is skilled with HTML, while most people is with BBCodes, also sometimes is better to use BBCodes, which aren't so long as HTML, and are quicker to imput. Not to mention about certain characters limit ;)
Edited by Nemomon, Sep 7 2010, 08:45 AM.
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I definitely agree with the FAQ, it would be helpful to add questions there relevant to your own board. Also I suggested this: http://if.invisionfree.com/topic/5097985/1/

Staff Security Portal should include not only admins/global mods, but also regular forum moderators.
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Sep 7 2010, 12:31 PM
Staff Security Portal should include not only admins/global mods, but also regular forum moderators.
... and Admin Assistants.
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Good point Nemo, thanks for adding that.
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I've got another suggestion.

In the blog, the blog date doesn't give the year. To newer members it's not a problem, but it is to older members. I'd want it put in the blog_options like "Entry posted at 5:32 PM, year 2008".
Edited by Pando-ZNS, Sep 9 2010, 02:38 PM.
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