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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 12 2011, 10:29 AM (685 Views) | |
| SandyC-ZNS | Mar 12 2011, 10:29 AM Post #1 |
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I am currently Admin og an Invision board and am in the situation of wanting to convert the forum to Zeta, so I tried to do the conversion, only to find that it is a root admin function only. I have tried unsuccessfully since late october 2010 to communicate with the forums root admin, all PM's and emails to date have gone unanswered. I would like to know if there is any way around this problem and converting the forum, or do I either have to wait for our root admin to answer the PM's and emails, or give the password to their account.? It is obvious by our root admins lack of answers to PM's and emails that he/she has absolutely no interest in the forum, so I would like to be able to take over full responsibility for it. The only way I can see to do this is to get him/her to reply with giving me full control of the forum by handing over his/her username and password to the forum, but seeing as my PM's and emails are going unanswered, I am at a loss as to how to make the conversion and also gain full control of the forum. I have exhausted all avenues trying to get the neccesary information so I can make any and all improvements, so I thought I would come here and see if anyone had any useful suggestions on how I may bypass mu root admin and make the conversion to zeta, IF there is any. I realise that there is no way I can perform the action of conversion to zeta as root admin, exept by the illegal of course, and that is not an option as it would contravene the Invisision TOU as well as ethical rules. Any helpful information/help would be gratefully accepted. |
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| Liam | Mar 12 2011, 11:37 AM Post #2 |
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Currently, only the root administrator has permission to opt in for a conversion to ZetaBoards. If all attempts at contacting the administrator have failed, then there is no alternative at this point in time. We are working on a tool to allow non-root administrators to opt in for the conversion, though there is no ETA for when/if this feature will become available. Attempting to gain access to the root account without permission is against our Terms of Use. I apologize greatly for the inconvenience. |
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| SandyC-ZNS | Mar 13 2011, 12:51 AM Post #3 |
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I'll keep an eye out for the changes, and hope they happen sooner raher than later. I had hoped that you may have had some clue as to what we could do legally seeing as our root admin won't answer his messages, or hand over the root adnin password. I guess Ill have to keep an eye on your forums for any updates and hope that the idea you mention is brought in sooner rather than later. I had hoped you may have known of a way to bypass root admin control, "legally" of course, as a large percentage of our 320 members are in favour of a change, and the changeover would see our members using the forum more than at present. Heres hoping you bring out the changes sooner rather than later as I can not see our root admin breaking his/her silence and replying to any of the many PM's and emails sent their way. Edited by SandyC-ZNS, Mar 13 2011, 12:57 AM.
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| wissaboo | Mar 13 2011, 01:55 AM Post #4 |
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just testing
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you may want to consider opening a new forum and getting people to register there. You can always include a redirect forum to the older "archive" board. then you would own the board and wouldn't have any problems with an absent root admin who returns. |
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| SandyC-ZNS | Mar 13 2011, 02:06 AM Post #5 |
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I had thought about that, and after discussion with my team decided that we may lose too many maembers in the move. We have the problem that our forum is, or was opened as a result of another being closed. The old forum would've had in excess of 1500 active members when it closed, out of that, we got 320 members, and some are quiet at present. I feel another move would see the end of us as a viable forum as not enough members would follow us over to yet another forum. I feel the only option I have is to try and hang on to the current forum and be able to make the changes the members want. |
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| SandyC-ZNS | Mar 15 2011, 10:41 PM Post #6 |
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~bumps~ |
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| Liam | Mar 16 2011, 05:02 AM Post #7 |
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This topic recently discussed our plans for non-root admins to opt in for conversions. While it is on our list of priorities, an ETA for when it will be launched is unknown. |
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| SandyC-ZNS | Mar 16 2011, 08:55 AM Post #8 |
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I have been wondering if there is anything in the Invision rules that states that a root admin must remain in contact with his/her staff at all times and keep an active role in his/her own forum. I also wonder that if that root admin does not fulfil his/her obligations to the forum they created and doesnot communicate with the staff, or members of the forum, I wonder if that being the case if there is some clause for admin they have taken on to gain control of the forum, legitimately of course. If there is some clause in the Invisision rules along these lines, I would be interested to know it as I feel it is unfair on any forum to run successfully without a root admin, or someone who can step in and take over in the event of the root admin abandoning his/her forum as has happened in this case, and I'm sure has happened to others of us. |
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| Liam | Mar 16 2011, 10:18 AM Post #9 |
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There are no rules or guidelines stipulating that the root admin must remain in contact with his or her community. We cannot intervene and provide access to the root admin account, regardless of when they were last active. We understand that not being able to convert is a significant limitation, and hence we are developing a system to allow non-root administrators to opt in for the conversion. I once again apologize for the inconvenience. I understand that this must be frustrating for you, and appreciate your patience. |
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| SandyC-ZNS | Mar 16 2011, 07:45 PM Post #10 |
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Thanks Liam. I do wonder if a new stipulation of having an Invision forum could be put in to either the TOU or agreements to the effect that root admins must remain in contact with forum staff at the very least, if nothing else. It would make things a lot easier for forum staff if that was a condition of having an Invision forum. |
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| Nemomon | Mar 16 2011, 07:52 PM Post #11 |
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I'm sorry for putting my nose there, but no one, Brandon included, ever can force You, me, ROOT Admin to visit the board. It is our free will only, that we want to visit it or not. One day we may have free time to visit it, but the next day we have a wife, 3 kids, and a board somewhere in internet is the very last thing we can think of now. Therefore ToU never will force people to visit the board they created. |
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| SandyC-ZNS | Mar 17 2011, 12:53 AM Post #12 |
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While I accept that root admin, like everyone else have a life offline, to not put in an appearance in your own forum for over 4 months is in my opinion more than a little over the top. Most of us accept that if we build ourselves a forum, then get staff to manage the day to day running for us, we do answer our PM's and emails, and at least visit the forum every few days to ensure the staff are running the forum the way you intended it to be run. In my case, I have 2 of my own forums, if the staff or members send me a PM, it is answered within 24 hours. I also visit both forums every 2 to 3 days to see they're okay and leave staff messages, also help sort out any problems the members may have. I have yet to come across a root admin like the one in the Invision board I'm running to just up and disappear for over 4 months and not answer any messages sent, or put in an appearance during that time, IMHO, if a root admin hasn't been seen or heard from in over 4 months, they obviously have no interest in the forum, so full control of it should be given to one of the other staff there and not leave the staff and members hanging like they are at present. |
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| The Borg | Mar 17 2011, 02:16 AM Post #13 |
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See? Even the greatest of the greatest captains get asimalatied
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yet what if he had no time? running a forum AND living a life could be hard. maby he loves the forum and wants to run it yet he has no time? to come and see that he was not in control and his forum was a zeta one could make him angry with the zathus network and then....who knows? (sorry for butting in no harm done?) (please dont take what i said as "backseat moderation" |
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| wissaboo | Mar 17 2011, 02:31 AM Post #14 |
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just testing
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the board belongs to the root admin, not to the members. It is his to abandon as he wishes. Anything else would just open a huge can of worms where Brandon would have decifer. I just don't see that ever happening. |
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| Liam | Mar 17 2011, 02:50 AM Post #15 |
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I've noticed that you have sent in a Support Ticket, so I will respond further there.
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