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Nemo's Ideas and Suggestions MK III
Topic Started: Jun 30 2010, 04:03 AM (1,934 Views)
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Stupid idea this time, so that's why topic title not very relevant.

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It could be good to have:

- a place where all hidden posts and topics would be easily available (something like InvisionFree's Mod CP) - feature requested A LOT of times
- a place where all posts with STAFF BBCode will be easily available - something new. Considering that STAFF BBCode is a correspondence between Staff, it should be quickly available too.
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I believe they have said before that the likelihood of a Mod CP is very slim since ZB used inline moderation and prides itself on that, so it would be redundant to add a Mod CP that would have very little purpose.

I don't see why staff notes need to be viewed collectively. The majority of the time when the bb code is actually used properly and not just fooling around, it pertains to that particular topic it's in and there's no reason to collect them all from each topic since they wouldn't make sense out of context anyways.
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Mod CP is not only a place where You can do a general moderation to the board. And indeed ZetaBoards have this already installed as inline moderation. Mod CP is also a place where all the queued topics and posts are stored in one place. ZetaBoards actually is missing this. This is why I am requesting this. A place that I can see all the hidden stuff without needing to go from one forum to another. And not just /forum/FORUM_ID/?all_queued, because this is only for single forums, but also somewhere a link to this link with a count how many quequed topics given forum has.

I do not know how You are using it, but STAFF BBCode I think is intended to be used as an edit of given post, not just as a new post. If I would want to add a new post, I always could make it hidden. But then again there is a problem with queued posts that they remain well hidden even for the Staff, like I have explained above. Not to mention that Queued posts are full of bugs. For example even two hidden topics can destroy Staff topic viewing (Staff is not be to see all the messages). Summa summarum I told my Staff that they may not use this feature. This is probably a part of Brandon's: "Trashing hidden items now auto-approves them to fix an entire class of bugs".

Anyway, going back to STAFF, considering that this BBCode is just an edit, and not a new post, it is not bumping a topic. Everytime I need to go back to given topic to see, if something new is added there. With this feature, for example in drop down menu of Report CP, I and my Staff could easily track the discussion and see if someone said something new or not.
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Can STAFF BBCode has its own class? As of now it seems like it shares the class of Blockquote. I think that this BBCode should be better visible in the topic, therefore it should have its own class.
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The issue with that being the same as with multiquote, where every theme would have to be updated with the new stuff.

In the end, the format that is used was chosen because it's clearly not normal text, and you can't make that title with a [quote] or other tag.
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Oct 17 2011, 07:02 PM
The issue with that being the same as with multiquote, where every theme would have to be updated with the new stuff.

In the end, the format that is used was chosen because it's clearly not normal text, and you can't make that title with a [quote] or other tag.
While I understand why multiquote may not be an image (theme creators may bia MIA therefore no template to create a new button), but CSS may be easily edited.

Lex retro non agit. This additional css originally was not a part of the theme, therefore it can be altered by Admins without needing to ask for permisison to do so.

However new themes may have different class for STAFF BBCode, so this BBCode will be easily noticeable in the topic.
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If you're asking for a staff tag that works pretty much exactly like it does now but with an extra class for styling, I'm OK with that. Otherwise, not so much, because when the staff BBCode output format is changed, it will look ugly on all but the default boards until the CSS is updated for every theme. It's still just as much of an issue as adding a small image to each theme.
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Yes, I am requesting a class for styling, so my current STAFF BBCode will not look like a quote (therefore there is a high chance that I will miss it). If I would be able for example to change the colour of background of that STAFF BBCode, it could be more visible in the thread.

The issue with updating each theme still exist for example with CLASS BBCode, so not a very big deal. ;) Brandon always may want to send a default CSS for STAFF BBCode through "ZetaBoards News" section in ACP. Therefore everyone will be aware about that.
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The class BBCode is already by board. You can't write a theme expecting boards to use a certain set of class BBCodes, so no stylesheets need updated for it. Building a class like .staff into the board does require themes to be updated.

Remotely updating themes doesn't work like that. The default style would have to be "no style" until it was added.

Until then, quite easily a code that detects "[STAFF]" in the top bar could add a styling class for you. It'd be, like, one line.
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Oct 18 2011, 08:34 AM
The class BBCode is already by board. You can't write a theme expecting boards to use a certain set of class BBCodes, so no stylesheets need updated for it. Building a class like .staff into the board does require themes to be updated.

Remotely updating themes doesn't work like that. The default style would have to be "no style" until it was added.

Until then, quite easily a code that detects "[STAFF]" in the top bar could add a styling class for you. It'd be, like, one line.
So you could make a code that say, adds a background image to the staff box background or the staff box h2? Do iiiiit.

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$("blockquote").filter(function() { return $(this).find("dt:contains('[STAFF]')").length; }).addClass("stafftag");

Style it in your CSS with the stafftag class. The class applies to the blockquote, so the title bar is .stafftag dl, the title text is .stafftag dt, and the text and text box are .stafftag div.
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I would suggest having the report cp list all threads and replies that need approving. it would make the report cp more useful then it already is. I can't see anyone actually wanting to have it so they need to hunt through the entire forum for posts that need approving. I found in the past that I would miss posts that need approving simply because I didn't frequent the area that they were posted into and this would help mods moderate sections of the board they don't frequent much.
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Yes, Report CP as of now needs to be more useful. There is some Moderator tasks that a shortcut from it can be useful. Also having a special page for "Mod CP" is not that bad idea.
Edited by Nemomon, Oct 19 2011, 04:58 AM.
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