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Atheism is NOT a religion
Topic Started: Dec 19 2005, 12:12 AM (1,158 Views)
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Well part of atheism is that the person doesn't believe in heaven or hell. They think life here is it no after life. (I got this from TV while watching Barabra Walters last other night if I am wrong it is her falt) So I don't know if it is a religion
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Dec 21 2005, 04:20 PM
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Dec 20 2005, 10:55 PM
Atheism is a religion.

They believe to not believe.

You obviously know nothing about Atheism. If eternal paradise were as easy as switching my beliefs, why do you think I'm still an Atheist? Because I can't suddenly abandon Atheism, because I don't believe that religion is untrue, I know that religion is untrue.

Where are the facts that your knowledge is based on? Prove it.
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You obviously know nothing about Atheism. If eternal paradise were as easy as switching my beliefs, why do you think I'm still an Atheist? Because I can't suddenly abandon Atheism, because I don't believe that religion is untrue, I know that religion is untrue.


Yes, how do you know Religion is true or untrue? No one can tell if it is, until we die. Then one way or another we will find out if one or more religions were preaching the right thing, or none of them were.

Tell me, have you died recently?
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I don't know any atheists who "believe" God (take your pick, there are plenty) does not exist.

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That my friends, is classic.
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doug05257
Dec 22 2005, 12:47 AM
Where are the facts that your knowledge is based on? Prove it.

This is only one example, but God contradicts himself. Let's say God is omnipotent (all-powerful). Can God create an animal so fast he cannot catch it? If the answer is "Yes", then he cannot catch the animal, therefore he is not omnipotent. If the answer is "No", then he cannot create the animal, therefore he is not omnipotent.

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LOL!
That my friends, is classic.

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That, my friends, is the manifestation of an ass in human form! Come and stare in wonder!
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Dec 18 2005, 11:12 PM
Atheism is not a religion. This guy can explain it much better than I can:

http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/atheismreligion.html
(check out some of the other articles on there if you have time, they're all very interesting)

To sum up his arguments:

  • Atheism is the lack of religion. If you believe in any religion then you cannot be considered an Atheist. Therefore, Atheism cannot possibly be a religion.
  • Atheists do not simply choose to believe that a God does not exist, we know that a God does not exist. This is for the same reasons that you cannot have a square circle. Religion requires belief and faith, and Atheism requires no faith.
  • For example: if someone asks you whether you believe that unicorns exist, do you say that you believe that unicorns don't exist, or you don't think that unicorns exist? They're two different answers. If you say that you believe that unicorns don't exist, does that mean you're a member of the no-unicorn religion? Is it a matter of faith that unicorns don't exist?
  • Another example: If you don't believe in the Hindu god Ganesh, does that mean that you're part of the non-Ganesh religion? Shall I come with you to your non-Ganesh church services tomorrow?
  • If my denial of your religion is a religion, then your denial of all other religions is a religion as well. Then, along with being a member of Christianity, you are also a member of the non-Islam, non-Hindu, non-Buddhist, non-Shinto, non-Jewish, non-Chinese Traditional, etc faiths.
Atheism is not a religion, it is the lack of religion! Atheism can no more be considered a religion than unemployment can be considered a job.

Those are great points, and those are what make me an athiest. :)

@ Glitch: :haha: So true ;)
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doug05257
Dec 22 2005, 12:47 AM
Where are the facts that your knowledge is based on? Prove it.

This is only one example, but God contradicts himself. Let's say God is omnipotent (all-powerful). Can God create an animal so fast he cannot catch it? If the answer is "Yes", then he cannot catch the animal, therefore he is not omnipotent. If the answer is "No", then he cannot create the animal, therefore he is not omnipotent.

Riddles aren't going to prove anything, Glitch.
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doug05257
Dec 22 2005, 04:26 PM
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Dec 22 2005, 04:19 PM
doug05257
Dec 22 2005, 12:47 AM
Where are the facts that your knowledge is based on? Prove it.

This is only one example, but God contradicts himself. Let's say God is omnipotent (all-powerful). Can God create an animal so fast he cannot catch it? If the answer is "Yes", then he cannot catch the animal, therefore he is not omnipotent. If the answer is "No", then he cannot create the animal, therefore he is not omnipotent.

Riddles aren't going to prove anything, Glitch.

How is that a riddle? It is merely a contradiction, or are you to ignorant to admit you're wrong?
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doug05257
Dec 22 2005, 04:26 PM
Riddles aren't going to prove anything, Glitch.

It's not a riddle, it's logic.
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Dec 22 2005, 09:24 PM
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Dec 18 2005, 11:12 PM
Atheism is not a religion. This guy can explain it much better than I can:

http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/atheismreligion.html
(check out some of the other articles on there if you have time, they're all very interesting)

To sum up his arguments:


  • Atheism is the lack of religion. If you believe in any religion then you cannot be considered an Atheist. Therefore, Atheism cannot possibly be a religion.

  • Atheists do not simply choose to believe that a God does not exist, we know that a God does not exist. This is for the same reasons that you cannot have a square circle. Religion requires belief and faith, and Atheism requires no faith.

  • For example: if someone asks you whether you believe that unicorns exist, do you say that you believe that unicorns don't exist, or you don't think that unicorns exist? They're two different answers. If you say that you believe that unicorns don't exist, does that mean you're a member of the no-unicorn religion? Is it a matter of faith that unicorns don't exist?

  • Another example: If you don't believe in the Hindu god Ganesh, does that mean that you're part of the non-Ganesh religion? Shall I come with you to your non-Ganesh church services tomorrow?

  • If my denial of your religion is a religion, then your denial of all other religions is a religion as well. Then, along with being a member of Christianity, you are also a member of the non-Islam, non-Hindu, non-Buddhist, non-Shinto, non-Jewish, non-Chinese Traditional, etc faiths.

Atheism is not a religion, it is the lack of religion! Atheism can no more be considered a religion than unemployment can be considered a job.

Those are great points, and those are what make me an athiest. :)

@ Glitch: :haha: So true ;)

No, being "Godless" is what makes you an atheist.

The argument is not whether atheism is a religion. Neither monotheism or polytheism are religions. They are beliefs that most religions fall under. Atheism, monotheism; theism is independent of religion. There seems to be confusion between atheism and antireligion.








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Dec 22 2005, 04:44 PM
No, being "Godless" is what makes you an atheist.

The argument is not whether atheism is a religion. Neither monotheism or polytheism are religions. They are beliefs that most religions fall under. Atheism, monotheism; theism is independent of religion. There seems to be confusion between atheism and antireligion.

I'm sorry, but you are not the one who can decide what this debate is about. I, as the starter of this debate, intended it to be exclusively on whether Atheism is a religion or not, as hinted at by the title of this topic.

Also, do not make up words. There is no such word as "antireligion".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antireligion
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Dec 22 2005, 04:54 PM

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=antireligion
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http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/antireligion
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Dec 22 2005, 05:09 PM

I never said the prefix "anti-" didn't exist...
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