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September 11, 2001; What really happened?
Topic Started: Jan 6 2006, 12:36 AM (671 Views)
Colonel Mustard
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It's bull****
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hit89
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And your evidence? yea that's what I thought.
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Remzo
Jan 6 2006, 04:31 PM
Well, when it happened Bush didnt really even seem to care. Wasnt he reading a story to some kids at a school or something like that?

What could Bush do, anyway?

  • Ever studied physics? The downward kinetic energy is resisted by the metal frame, which is all well and good, but an airplane would hit more than one floor at once, damaging the frame. Now, the steel would also be melting and the kinetic energy will be forcing the now weak frame outward.

    So now we have a damaged metal frame gradually getting weaker... and one section gives way. Normally it is the mass X gravity of the building held up by a strong frame, now it is the mass X gravity X momentum held up by a weak frame, so it smashes through the weak areas easily, and by the time it begins to break at the strong frame the momentum will be even higher.

  • RFB got most of it right, but I think a military complex would have began removing bodies etc. before volunteers even got there.

  • The ash on top of it could crush it. Research volcano effects and you will see.
I hate consparacists.
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hit89
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Hmmm ok did you watch them videos? The World Trade Center wasn't built like many other buildings. The fires were going out and everything was good, but then in about 11 seconds the 2 towers went down. Also the Trade Centers managment building went down without any debree or any plane hitting it. You never saw that on media? It was on the site with a home video.
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hit89
Jan 6 2006, 12:26 PM
Hmmm ok did you watch them videos? The World Trade Center wasn't built like many other buildings. The fires were going out and everything was good, but then in about 11 seconds the 2 towers went down. Also the Trade Centers managment building went down without any debree or any plane hitting it. You never saw that on media? It was on the site with a home video.

Do you not know how metal works? Countless times, the ACTUAL ARCHITECT of the building has stated publicly that the way it collapsed was exactly as RFB stated. Metal metls in one area: i.e. where the fire was, and the part it was holding suddenly falls *downward*, as it is no longer supported.

There were certainly parts found at the Pentagon, and were removed rather quickly, as were the remains of the bodies. You don't leave thing slike that sitting forever.

I believe the building down the street from the WTC that collapsed had gathered an uncontrollable amount of debris (that's how you actually spell it) on the roof, and support beams buckled under the intense weight.

Conspiracies are for King of the Hill cartoon characters with Indian children.
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I watched it live, so I know what happened with the towers. They fell seperately, too.

Also, this building could still have been crushed by ash.
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Frizby
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Some very interesting stuff you have found there.
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Just because a site is sponsored by important people doesn't mean it is right. And just for the record the fire wasn't going out as there wouldn't have been any reason for it to have gone out and things were NOT okay. You personally don't really have any evidence for your argument.
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hit89
Jan 6 2006, 12:23 PM
We aren't guessing here this organization is just gathering evidence and information to REOPEN THE 9/11 INVESTIGATION. RagingBlackFury, I ignore you you ignore me be more mature next time... You handled that like a 10 year old. Beside I have gotten the facts. The website I went to is sponsered by many important people. There is also a contest if you get evidence that bombs were not used and planted in the Twin Towers you get 1 million dollars.

One, Never handled like a 10 year old. I presented you with the true facts of the case, which I assume you are ignorant to. Sponsord websites are crap. Ever think I personally know a few first-responders? You haven't got facts, facts need things to back them up. A fact would be that the twin towners were hit by an aircraft. The impact knocked weak fire retardent foam off of steel gurders, making them succeptable to the extreme heat of a jet fuel fire, which I believe burns at around 3000 Degrees Farenheit, which by the way, can melt steel. The fact that the floor supports bent and snapped under the heat and collapsed can be, and was in fact proven by numerous engineering firms, including the one that actuially built the towers.

And oh, its RagingFuryBlack.
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It may have been quite astonishing the way the towers fell but that does mean that there's a conspiricy behind. I'd rather it be left to the past rather than dug up again reminding families of their loss. Face the facts, just because a sponsored website displayed their "theories" doesn't make them fact as RagingFuryBlack has said.

And yes, steel can melt at tempretures as high as 3000 degrees farenheit.
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Ok I realize the towers went down. I also watched it live. There was more than the twin towers however. The Pentigon was hit. They say they didn't find much big equitment, ok I beleive it was burnt, but how could this be possible... the plane was exactly 7" off the ground. The Pentagon was in the middle of a city with many many obsticoles. Even the best of the best pilots cannot do that.... Also the twin towers managment buildings fell strait down without anything hitting it. Explain those to me please.

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For the last time I know steel can melt you have made that point!

I also know the families would like to know who really killed their loved ones then let it just be a mystery...

There are some unsolved answers that need to be answered
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The families do know who killed their relatives. Terrorists.

And do you have no idea where the Pentagon is? It's not in any town at all: it's in Arlington, VA, in a pretty open area.

You're grasping straws now; you've already stopped defending your original points.
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hit89
Jan 6 2006, 12:47 PM
Ok I realize the towers went down. I also watched it live. There was more than the twin towers however. The Pentigon was hit. They say they didn't find much big equitment, ok I beleive it was burnt, but how could this be possible... the plane was exactly 7" off the ground. The Pentagon was in the middle of a city with many many obsticoles. Even the best of the best pilots cannot do that....

Look at this image. I don't see many obstacles around the Pentagon, do you?
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Your post is all wrong o well, I guess I can't convince everyone to sign a petition. Close down this topic it's going no where with you stubborn asses.
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hit89
Jan 6 2006, 01:13 PM
Your post is all wrong o well, I guess I can't convince everyone to sign a petition. Close down this topic it's going no where with you stubborn asses.

It has nothing to do with us being stubborn, it has to do with your information being highly inaccurate.
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