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Death for crime ?; choose
Topic Started: Jan 6 2006, 07:39 PM (964 Views)
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Jan 13 2006, 02:09 AM
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Jan 10 2006, 04:30 PM
Question: Why does it cost to put someone to death?

Why? Because we have to pay for what they inject into the person to kill them. It's expensive to kill someone. And truthfully? I don't want to be paying to kill someone. That just isn't right.

Well that's silly, just stab them in the temple with a syringe filled with water and inject fast, should kill them easily enough.
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I think you should if you kill someone you deserve to die
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I think that if they are going to die in prison... it is pretty much the same thing... so it really doesn't matter, either way their life is screwed any ways.
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Just telling you, I'm a Christian, and I use God's Word as my guide(so don't pursecute me).

It all depends on what the person did.

Examples:

Blowing up a building with people inside-kill them

Umm...I don't know what to use as an example for not killing them. God gave us capitol punishment, and we should use it faithfully.
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ColinMochrie
Jan 13 2006, 06:00 PM
Umm...I don't know what to use as an example for not killing them. God gave us capitol punishment, and we should use it faithfully.

God also gave us murder, rape, and child molestation. I guess we should use those faithfully too.

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Well that's silly, just stab them in the temple with a syringe filled with water and inject fast, should kill them easily enough.

First of all, that would be extremely inhumane. Secondly, most of the cost of executions comes not from the actual execution but from the appeals process, a process which is guaranteed to any individual by law and is in fact in the Constitution.
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Jan 14 2006, 12:27 AM
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Well that's silly, just stab them in the temple with a syringe filled with water and inject fast, should kill them easily enough.

First of all, that would be extremely inhumane. Secondly, most of the cost of executions comes not from the actual execution but from the appeals process, a process which is guaranteed to any individual by law and is in fact in the Constitution.

Although I have revised views and am not pro-capital punishment anymore, I still feel that they shouldn't be treated humanely, anyway. Do the crime do the time. It's not like the electric chair is completely painless, too.
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Jan 13 2006, 07:27 PM
God also gave us murder, rape, and child molestation. I guess we should use those faithfully too.

If that were true, OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson would worship you :D All hail + Glitch!
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Jan 14 2006, 12:33 AM
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Jan 13 2006, 07:27 PM
God also gave us murder, rape, and child molestation. I guess we should use those faithfully too.

If that were true, OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson would worship you :D All hail + Glitch!

I like to think there is a reason MJ wasn't convicted for his supposed crimes.
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Jan 13 2006, 07:31 PM
Although I have revised views and am not pro-capital punishment anymore, I still feel that they shouldn't be treated humanely, anyway. Do the crime do the time. It's not like the electric chair is completely painless, too.

Everyone deserves to be treated humanely. By not treating them humanely you are telling society it is OK to not treat others humanely. It's like telling your kids not to drink with a bottle of beer in your hand.

The electric chair is only legal in 1 or 2 states now I think. The majority of executions now are done by lethal injection.

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If that were true, OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson would worship you :grin: All hail + Glitch!

I'm sorry if you have trouble detecting sarcasm, but that's not my problem.
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God also gave us murder, rape, and child molestation. I guess we should use those faithfully too.


He does have a point there, but I still think that if they are going to have life in prison why not just kill them?
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I said no and my theory works this way:

-If someone you knew was killed by someone who killed a bunch of other people, wouldn't you want them to suffer? There's no suffering in death, for obvious reasons, so why should they be exempt from the pain when they caused you so much of it? If a family member of mine was killed by a person, I think I'd rather have them waste away their life in a cell as opposed to escaping the consequences of their actions through death.

-You can't always be 100%. Sometimes you can, but if there's any doubt, throwing the person in prison would mean you can always take them out if it ends up they didn't commit the crime. Capital punishment, on the other hand, is irreversible.
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Yeah yo udo have a point there... I agree with you.
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Jan 14 2006, 08:02 PM
I said no and my theory works this way:

-If someone you knew was killed by someone who killed a bunch of other people, wouldn't you want them to suffer? There's no suffering in death, for obvious reasons, so why should they be exempt from the pain when they caused you so much of it? If a family member of mine was killed by a person, I think I'd rather have them waste away their life in a cell as opposed to escaping the consequences of their actions through death.

-You can't always be 100%. Sometimes you can, but if there's any doubt, throwing the person in prison would mean you can always take them out if it ends up they didn't commit the crime. Capital punishment, on the other hand, is irreversible.

Ah, but if there's no suffering in death, how come most criminals (Or maybe some is the better word) don't attempt suicide?
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Are there any statistics showing suicide rates in criminals? Once they get arrested, I don't know how easy it is to commit suicide, never having done either before.
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Sallee113
Jan 14 2006, 08:53 PM
Are there any statistics showing suicide rates in criminals? Once they get arrested, I don't know how easy it is to commit suicide, never having done either before.

All it takes is for them to get hold of a scarf or something similar.

I disagree with capital punishment. If you convict the wrong person, you can't compensate death. It's also an easy way out; the prisoners can end their life quickly rather than spend the rest of it behind bars (which could easily be for over 50 years).
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