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Death or Life in Prison?
Topic Started: Jan 6 2006, 07:49 PM (757 Views)
Vettore
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It all depends on how long my sentance is.
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Excella
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A murderer does not deserve any sympathy, and I really don’t care what happens to one. Karma. Therefore, life in jail is not harsh at all... they should be killed. Of course, life in prison would be boring :S.
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hit89
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Jan 6 2006, 07:43 PM
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Ok a mistake huh.  Let us say you have a sister, a guy comes in kills your sister rapes her and nails her to the front of your house.  WOuld you treat that guy just like anyone, you wouldn't care that he did that or would you be more humane and rip his throat out.

Someone like that would probably have a mental problem. Sure I would be mad and probably want to rip his throat out, but he's still a human being. If he's not executed he should be treated as I said. After enough time, as he grows older he could become a different person ashamed of what he had done.

Plus not everyone in jail commits horrible crimes like that, some may even be innocent.

Mate think about the Texas Chainsaw Masacre. He never 'changed' he kept slaughtering people. If you think he is just a regular guy you are just trying to be polite. Get Real!
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Lady Broceliande
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I'd say life in prison is a lot worse. It tortures the prisoner, yet if he were put to death, after that there's no more of him. Some criminals also don't mind being put to death, so it wouldn't be worth killing them. Also, if they were killed, it would also hurt their family, who could be innocent victims.

On another hand, I don't like it when prisoners stay for life in prison because then the citizens have to pay for their food and stuff through taxes. I wouldn't like to waste my money of criminals.
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I say death, we are paying for people to live in prisons...billions of dollars, so just kill 'em
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hit89
Jan 6 2006, 08:01 PM
Corey89
Jan 6 2006, 07:43 PM
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Ok a mistake huh.  Let us say you have a sister, a guy comes in kills your sister rapes her and nails her to the front of your house.  WOuld you treat that guy just like anyone, you wouldn't care that he did that or would you be more humane and rip his throat out.

Someone like that would probably have a mental problem. Sure I would be mad and probably want to rip his throat out, but he's still a human being. If he's not executed he should be treated as I said. After enough time, as he grows older he could become a different person ashamed of what he had done.

Plus not everyone in jail commits horrible crimes like that, some may even be innocent.

Mate think about the Texas Chainsaw Masacre. He never 'changed' he kept slaughtering people. If you think he is just a regular guy you are just trying to be polite. Get Real!

Okay, you do not understand what I'm saying.

I don't no anything about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I know they made a movie about it, but I haven't seen it so I can't relate to what you’re saying.

The point is; we are all the same. Every one of us was once an innocent child at one time and although we are all brought up differently we all have a soul and a conscience. Everyone deserves a second chance.

If you still don't understand I'll try to explain in a hypothetical example.

Let’s say you were born into a poor family that couldn’t even afford a bag of chips for dinner. Your father is in jail for stealing and your mother is very sick and cannot work. You’d grow up only relying on yourself because it would seem as if no one cared about you. You might join a gang looking for acceptance. You kill a man because of peer/gang pressure. You get caught and sent to jail. Do you think you deserve to die? No, if anything we should pity someone with such Ill fate. Now if prisons cared for their inmates and helped them prepare for the real world, gave then high school educations, and treated them humanely then I see no reason why after enough time he could be accepted back into society. ...But no, you guys just say kill'em... wow..
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Jan 7 2006, 02:26 AM
hit89
Jan 6 2006, 08:01 PM
Corey89
Jan 6 2006, 07:43 PM
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Ok a mistake huh.  Let us say you have a sister, a guy comes in kills your sister rapes her and nails her to the front of your house.  WOuld you treat that guy just like anyone, you wouldn't care that he did that or would you be more humane and rip his throat out.

Someone like that would probably have a mental problem. Sure I would be mad and probably want to rip his throat out, but he's still a human being. If he's not executed he should be treated as I said. After enough time, as he grows older he could become a different person ashamed of what he had done.

Plus not everyone in jail commits horrible crimes like that, some may even be innocent.

Mate think about the Texas Chainsaw Masacre. He never 'changed' he kept slaughtering people. If you think he is just a regular guy you are just trying to be polite. Get Real!

Okay, you do not understand what I'm saying.

I don't no anything about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I know they made a movie about it, but I haven't seen it so I can't relate to what you’re saying.

The point is; we are all the same. Every one of us was once an innocent child at one time and although we are all brought up differently we all have a soul and a conscience. Everyone deserves a second chance.

If you still don't understand I'll try to explain in a hypothetical example.

Let’s say you were born into a poor family that couldn’t even afford a bag of chips for dinner. Your father is in jail for stealing and your mother is very sick and cannot work. You’d grow up only relying on yourself because it would seem as if no one cared about you. You might join a gang looking for acceptance. You kill a man because of peer/gang pressure. You get caught and sent to jail. Do you think you deserve to die? No, if anything we should pity someone with such Ill fate. Now if prisons cared for their inmates and helped them prepare for the real world, gave then high school educations, and treated them humanely then I see no reason why after enough time he could be accepted back into society. ...But no, you guys just say kill'em... wow..

What you wrote, Corey89, can only be applied to a small population of those who are put in jail. A lot of people aren't forced to do gang related things or to kill because they are poor. They choose to do it. Choice. People have a choice whether or not they can be 'good' or 'bad'. 'Good', meaning that they stick by their morals, and 'bad' meaning that to them killing brings to consequences.

Now I'm not trying to say that it goes for everyone. Sure, there are some people who are ill fated, but if we set up an educational system for prisoners and after a time let them go back into the real world when they are mentally 'better equipped' I sincerely doubt people will not return to their previous state. For some it's beyond being educated or not. It's hard for me to talk about this because I can't personally relate to this.
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Jan 7 2006, 05:27 PM
What you wrote, Corey89, can only be applied to a small population of those who are put in jail. A lot of people aren't forced to do gang related things or to kill because they are poor. They choose to do it. Choice. People have a choice whether or not they can be 'good' or 'bad'. 'Good', meaning that they stick by their morals, and 'bad' meaning that to them killing brings to consequences.

Yes, it's their choice, it's always been their choice (unless they are mentally ill perhaps), but it’s either kill or be killed for many of the people that grow up in a poverty-stricken community. A very small percentage of people in prison actually enjoyed killing and the ones that do are most likely mentally ill. People like that may need to be locked up for life or put to death, not because they deserve it, but for the safety of the general public.

Lady Broceliande
Jan 7 2006, 05:27 PM
Now I'm not trying to say that it goes for everyone. Sure, there are some people who are ill fated, but if we set up an educational system for prisoners and after a time let them go back into the real world when they are mentally 'better equipped' I sincerely doubt people will not return to their previous state. For some it's beyond being educated or not.

I agree.
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I am totally opposed to capital punishment.
It's a barbaric practice that most of the "civilized" world has abandoned, and with good reason.
Murder is murder.
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It depends on the sentence like Ben said, but if I was on Death row, I would probably commit suicide, because I couldnt live with myself knowing that I killed someone.
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Life in prison, they should suffer for what they did, instead of dying instantly.
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Corey89
Jan 7 2006, 10:58 PM
Lady Broceliande
Jan 7 2006, 05:27 PM
What you wrote, Corey89, can only be applied to a small population of those who are put in jail. A lot of people aren't forced to do gang related things or to kill because they are poor. They choose to do it. Choice. People have a choice whether or not they can be 'good' or 'bad'. 'Good', meaning that they stick by their morals, and 'bad' meaning that to them killing brings to consequences.

Yes, it's their choice, it's always been their choice (unless they are mentally ill perhaps), but it’s either kill or be killed for many of the people that grow up in a poverty-stricken community. A very small percentage of people in prison actually enjoyed killing and the ones that do are most likely mentally ill. People like that may need to be locked up for life or put to death, not because they deserve it, but for the safety of the general public.

Lady Broceliande
Jan 7 2006, 05:27 PM
Now I'm not trying to say that it goes for everyone. Sure, there are some people who are ill fated, but if we set up an educational system for prisoners and after a time let them go back into the real world when they are mentally 'better equipped' I sincerely doubt people will not return to their previous state. For some it's beyond being educated or not.

I agree.

Here is a quote that you should never forget:

"Once a killer, always a killer".
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In California the Death Penalty takes like 20 years before someone actually gets killed.

in the case of tookie williams he was in for about that time and had TOO MUCH TIME to 'redeem' himself. He was nominated for at least 2 nobel peace prize awars while on DEATH ROW!
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At least with life in prison there is always the possibility of escape. But for those who think that it is all lemons and gumdrops in prison you are severely mistaken. You are probably thinking about less severe sentences. Because when you go for life in prison you go to a maximum security prison. There ain't no fun and games there. Also, you don't get treated llike royalty before you die. You get the meal of your choice. That's it. I, personally, would prefer execution. However, I don't really feel like I'm in the position to make such a choice.
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Here is a quote that you should never forget:

"Once a killer, always a killer".


I disagree completely.

A hateful bunch, aren't we?
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