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Choosing servers upon registration
Topic Started: Nov 8 2014, 05:39 PM (1,450 Views)
Sethwt
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Why aren't we able to choose a server when registering a new forum? Why are we forced to register a new forum on a server we have no control of?

On top of that question, why aren't we allowed to change servers in-case a DDoS attack were to happen via the ACP? Or just change the server for whatever reason there may be?
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Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall.

1)Let's assume for the moment that there was a server that everyone chose. Let's say for example that s13 was the server everyone wanted. Everyone goes to that server. Including boards that are attacked. So the attack comes to that server. People then move on to the next and on and on we go. That's one reason. The other is let's assume there is a board name everyone wants (support for example). One user goes on and registers that name for all servers, despite only using one as an actual board. Makes it harder for others to simply create their own boards and takes up space for us as we now have 14 boards registered for no reason. The whole idea behind the current system is as servers are filled up, a new one opens up. Allowing users to choose would do little to help this. Let's say the server you chose was frequently undergoing maintenance or suffers from a denial of service attack. That brings us to...

2)Similar. Let's assume we do that. Everyone on s11 hops over to s13. So the attack simply moves on to s13. What's changed?

That's the basic reason. The second reason is that's a lot of developer time wasted on server moving. That makes for a very unsteady database - each time you do that, you need everything pointing to the correct place. And multiple boards doing it means more work in that area. In the end, the truth is both requests might accomplish nothing. And so rather than focus on fighting off a server attack and dealing with the problem at its source, we've made the problem worse by causing multiple servers to go down due to our own attack (hypothetical mass users switching to other servers which add massive stress to the servers and database). So now we've spent tons of time on moves that don't resolve the problem because someone just keeps attacking the servers over and over again and everything else (actual server upgrades, bug fixes, new features) are put off.

If this were a viable solution to our problems, we would have implemented it. But it does nothing to fix things long term - or really even short term. All we can do is continue trying to fight off the attacks and get the servers back online as quickly as possible when they go down.
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What about opening multiple servers to new forum registration? I think Jon mentioned server 11 is the one accepting new board registrations at the moment. Because currently when I register for test boards for like new themes they are all on the same server so when server 11 goes down I can't even go work on my test boards when my primary site is down.

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Twilight is upon me, and soon night must fall.

I pretty much answered that already. If multiple servers open up, it doesn't guarantee anything. If users want to attack a board, they will do it regardless of what server that board is on. And if that board moves, the attack moves as well. The only thing opening up more servers would do is make more work for us and our provider. It's a lot easier to focus on fixing one server than it is trying to get 10 back up.
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I hate to bump an old topic, but if Zetaboards server 11 is down, why not register on InvisionFree instead and simply convert it to Zetaboards?
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Billamen
Nov 14 2014, 04:08 PM
I hate to bump an old topic, but if Zetaboards server 11 is down, why not register on InvisionFree instead and simply convert it to Zetaboards?
This is for people who've already established a forum on server 7/11 (get it?). Those people cannot simply move from one server to another when they already have a membership base and forum structure.
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Sethwt
Nov 14 2014, 05:46 PM
Billamen
Nov 14 2014, 04:08 PM
I hate to bump an old topic, but if Zetaboards server 11 is down, why not register on InvisionFree instead and simply convert it to Zetaboards?
This is for people who've already established a forum on server 7/11 (get it?). Those people cannot simply move from one server to another when they already have a membership base and forum structure.
Logistically, moving boards between servers would be very demanding. It puts further strain on the servers.

Addressing the fundamental issue (i.e. server 7/11's performance and reliability) is a much more effective use of Brandon's time, and that's exactly what he's doing.
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.Esper
Nov 8 2014, 06:22 PM
What about opening multiple servers to new forum registration? I think Jon mentioned server 11 is the one accepting new board registrations at the moment. Because currently when I register for test boards for like new themes they are all on the same server so when server 11 goes down I can't even go work on my test boards when my primary site is down.

It's probably set to one server because there's more space and bandwidth available on that server than others. Brandon is able to select which servers are offered to new registrations because he's able to look behind the scenes and see which ones would be the best choice for the service as a whole.

Or so I'd assume.
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Sethwt
Nov 14 2014, 05:46 PM
Billamen
Nov 14 2014, 04:08 PM
I hate to bump an old topic, but if Zetaboards server 11 is down, why not register on InvisionFree instead and simply convert it to Zetaboards?
This is for people who've already established a forum on server 7/11 (get it?). Those people cannot simply move from one server to another when they already have a membership base and forum structure.
I see. The only thing that can be done then is to hope that someday maybe the reliability of s7/s11. A similar type of server relationship is true for s2/s8. As for test boards, my above statement would be helpful.
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Billamen
Nov 14 2014, 04:08 PM
I hate to bump an old topic, but if Zetaboards server 11 is down, why not register on InvisionFree instead and simply convert it to Zetaboards?
That's what I did and got server 13 this time. :)
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I wish we had the option to change server, even if just temporarily till the issue is resolved. Today has been really unstable for us, well the whole week has been. I know the staff isn't at fault, so hope my post isn't taken the wrong way, it's just really annoying, especially when your members start complaining about it too.
Edited by spiiike, Nov 15 2014, 09:04 PM.
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Nov 15 2014, 08:44 PM
I wish we had the option to change server, even if just temporarily till the issue is resolved. Today has been really unstable for us, well the whole week has been. I know the staff isn't at fault, so hope my post isn't taken the wrong way, it's just really annoying, especially when your members start complaining about it too.
It would likely take even longer to switch servers temporarily than it would for them to resolve reliability issues for s7/s11. Actually s7/s11 is the same relationship as s6/s10, so suppose s6 or s10 server opened up. Then all those people would complain.
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