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[ ! ] Code to log private messages
Topic Started: Feb 18 2015, 07:51 AM (1,614 Views)
Devourz
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can someone give me a code to log private messages?
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Unfortuantely, PM logging is a feature only available to ZetaBoards Premium:
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Admin accessible PM logs - This allows you to monitor the PM traffic between members on your board. Users are notified when sending a PM that their message is logged.
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Feb 18 2015, 09:12 AM
Unfortuantely, PM logging is a feature only available to ZetaBoards Premium:
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Admin accessible PM logs - This allows you to monitor the PM traffic between members on your board. Users are notified when sending a PM that their message is logged.
100% sure Helena said a 3rd party code could be used to log pms but you MUST give out a warning that the pms are logged and not private
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Actually, I discouraged it HERE. There seems to be some confusion on this point. I'll try get a definitive answer on this for you.
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Feb 18 2015, 02:23 PM
Actually, I discouraged it HERE. There seems to be some confusion on this point. I'll try get a definitive answer on this for you.
Let me know when you get one
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Feb 18 2015, 02:23 PM
Actually, I discouraged it HERE. There seems to be some confusion on this point. I'll try get a definitive answer on this for you.
It's a feature on ZetaBoards Premium. Invasion of privacy doesn't seem to be a concern as long as the user is notified before they send any messages. The real issue would be whether or not ZBPremium features are allowed to be implemented as scripts for regular boards.
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Feb 18 2015, 07:24 PM
Helena
Feb 18 2015, 02:23 PM
Actually, I discouraged it HERE. There seems to be some confusion on this point. I'll try get a definitive answer on this for you.
It's a feature on ZetaBoards Premium. Invasion of privacy doesn't seem to be a concern as long as the user is notified before they send any messages. The real issue would be whether or not ZBPremium features are allowed to be implemented as scripts for regular boards.
They are i believe
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Arrogant
Feb 18 2015, 07:24 PM
Helena
Feb 18 2015, 02:23 PM
Actually, I discouraged it HERE. There seems to be some confusion on this point. I'll try get a definitive answer on this for you.
It's a feature on ZetaBoards Premium. Invasion of privacy doesn't seem to be a concern as long as the user is notified before they send any messages. The real issue would be whether or not ZBPremium features are allowed to be implemented as scripts for regular boards.
The PM Loggng feature was created with privacy as a major concern. That is why admins can not avoid letting users know that their PMs are logged. You can not say the same about a remotely hosted script which could be edited at any time. These scripts are potentially harmful and abuse is possible. That is why we will not allow these codes. That abuse is also why PM Logs remain a Premium only feature.
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Feb 20 2015, 08:28 PM
The PM Loggng feature was created with privacy as a major concern. That is why admins can not avoid letting users know that their PMs are logged. You can not say the same about a remotely hosted script which could be edited at any time. These scripts are potentially harmful and abuse is possible. That is why we will not allow these codes. That abuse is also why PM Logs remain a Premium only feature.
I don't see how that's a legitimate concern when you allow administrators to change the password for any account on their board. Instead of logging PMs, they could just as easily access any account they wish to read them.

You're taking the wrong stance, to be honest. Instead of attempting to convince us that anything hosted on Zathyus servers can be considered "private", you should make users aware that anything hosted by this service is going to be accessible by a third-party.
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The difference is that admins can't read PMs undetected by changing the password. The next time the member logs in, they will not be able to get into their account since the password has changed. Granted, it may not occur to the member that his password has been forcibly changed and he may just request a reset and go about business as usual, but it still is a red flag.

Privacy is never guaranteed, you are right. But the way it is treated is still important.
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Feb 21 2015, 12:02 PM
The difference is that admins can't read PMs undetected by changing the password. The next time the member logs in, they will not be able to get into their account since the password has changed. Granted, it may not occur to the member that his password has been forcibly changed and he may just request a reset and go about business as usual, but it still is a red flag.

Privacy is never guaranteed, you are right. But the way it is treated is still important.
That difference is minimal. There will always be ways for a third-party to gain access to what you put on a remotely-hosted forum. Always. That's just the nature of the beast.

Instead of pretending that you need to assure members that they have some semblance on privacy while using this service, you should be telling them that they don't. You should be telling them to never, ever, ever write anything that could be considered private or personal and submit it in any way while using an InvisionFree or ZetaBoards forum. Threads, posts, personal messages, etc.. they should all be treated the same. If you actually made it a priority to inform the users of your service that this is the case, logging PMs would never be as big a deal as you want to make it out to be.

Privacy is never guaranteed, yeah, but it also doesn't exist while using this service.
Edited by Arrogant, Feb 21 2015, 02:41 PM.
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That is why admins can not avoid letting users know that their PMs are logged. You can not say the same about a remotely hosted script which could be edited at any time.


You can't say that about the default feature though either because it takes one line of CSS to remove that warning.
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È una trappola!

I'm not interested in a protracted debate about the particulars of privacy on ZetaBoards, as it only serves to confuse what should be a straightforward matter. ZetaBoards takes the user's privacy very seriously and, as far as technical limitations allow, we do not abide by infringements upon that privacy.

In general, we do not allow codes that emulate features available only with ZB Premium. This is for a variety of reasons, with resource consumption and privacy being only a couple. We decide how to deal with such codes, or boards using such codes, on a case-by-case basis. Sometimes this results in board closure; more often than not, we simply have the board remove the code.

We do not allow codes that log PMs. If you want to log PMs, then get ZB Premium and enable PM logging.

We do not allow codes that infringe on the user's privacy, especially without the user knowing. This includes disabling the premium PM logging's warning.

This is not a debate, and this is not a discussion about privacy. Our commitment to privacy is outlined in our privacy policy. If you have questions about this policy, you can contact me directly.
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È una trappola!

This request was deemed impractical by our staff. This could mean that the feature you have requested is impossible to write, requires PHP and/or hosting, or requires too many AJAX requests. If you have any questions about why this request is not practical, feel free to contact Reid .
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