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Question; god and gays
Topic Started: Dec 7 2006, 04:59 PM (1,483 Views)
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Alright. I have a question with the whole gay thing tieing up with religion. If god makes us who we are and basically makes everything about us, the how is being gay bad? I mean, if you're gay, you're born that way, which means god made you that way, but god is against gays. So in the end he's just contradicting himself, so how is anything god says true? It just doesn't make sense to me.

Can someone please explain
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Were you reading my sig?
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Gay people are outgoing,hilarious and love to talk to people. Why hate them?
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God loves every human being, but to him, the act of homosexaulity is wrong.

It's like, if you had a son who committed a crime, you would still love him, no?
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Dec 7 2006, 04:16 PM
God loves every human being, but to him, the act of homosexaulity is wrong.

It's like, if you had a son who committed a crime, you would still love him, no?

If you're born gay and he made you that way, how is it wrong?
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I think the debate stems from a few things.

Primarily though many people don't believe people are born gay, but that it is a choice. They say it is giving in to temptation just the same as premarital sex, etc. are.
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.AJ
Dec 7 2006, 04:18 PM
Vulcan
Dec 7 2006, 04:16 PM
God loves every human being, but to him, the act of homosexaulity is wrong.

It's like, if you had a son who committed a crime, you would still love him, no?

If you're born gay and he made you that way, how is it wrong?

We haven't proved that people are born gay.
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Vulcan
Dec 7 2006, 10:23 PM
.AJ
Dec 7 2006, 04:18 PM
Vulcan
Dec 7 2006, 04:16 PM
God loves every human being, but to him, the act of homosexaulity is wrong.

It's like, if you had a son who committed a crime, you would still love him, no?

If you're born gay and he made you that way, how is it wrong?

We haven't proved that people are born gay.

We haven’t proved that people choose to be gay either; I mean you can’t control your hormones.
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Original creation was made perfect, the fall of man brought sin. The earth was cursed therefore sin was born into us. In other words, just because I'm born with the natural inclination to lust after women doesn't mean I'm off the hook. Same goes with homosexuality.

Oh and I do believe people can be born homosexual. I don't however think that gives it any justification.
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Dec 7 2006, 04:31 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 10:23 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 04:18 PM
Vulcan
Dec 7 2006, 04:16 PM
God loves every human being, but to him, the act of homosexaulity is wrong.

It's like, if you had a son who committed a crime, you would still love him, no?

If you're born gay and he made you that way, how is it wrong?

We haven't proved that people are born gay.

We haven’t proved that people choose to be gay either; I mean you can’t control your hormones.

We also have proven that god really thinks it's wrong or not..
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finch
Dec 7 2006, 09:03 PM
Were you reading my sig?

Ha, I actually didn't look at it.





And I think that if every gay man has said that he was born gay, and didn't choose it, it's saying something.
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I thought that God was against acts of homosexuality, not necessarily being homosexual.
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Surely Unsure
Dec 7 2006, 04:42 PM
I thought that God was against acts of homosexuality, not necessarily being homosexual.

Precisely. No Christian can deny that we are naturally sinful. Anyone who has not naturally held hate in their heart, lustfully looked after others, been prideful, cared only for themself, etc. is a liar. The point is to refrain from carrying actions out. Homosexual lust is the same as heterosexual lust.
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Ross
Dec 7 2006, 09:46 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 04:42 PM
I thought that God was against acts of homosexuality, not necessarily being homosexual.

Precisely. No Christian can deny that we are naturally sinful. Anyone who has not naturally held hate in their heart, lustfully looked after others, been prideful, cared only for themself, etc. is a liar. The point is to refrain from carrying actions out. Homosexual lust is the same as heterosexual lust.

So, basically, you can have gay feelings, but just don't do anything with them?
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God is harsh.
Here is an example, if I am wrong, please correct me.
Moses struck a stone with Aaron's staff and water gushed from it. Then, the Israelites asked who they should thank for this "miracle," and Moses said to thank him.
And for that, God kept him out of the promised land.

I'm not saying I believe in that story, and I'm not saying I don't. I'm not even sure if I have my sources right.
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