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Question; god and gays
Topic Started: Dec 7 2006, 04:59 PM (1,489 Views)
Night Works™
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If you're born homosexual and don't find girls attractive then you shouldn't even be able to be with someone that you love . That's like saying, oh you like girls so you can't ever get a girl :).
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Dec 7 2006, 10:48 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 09:46 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 04:42 PM
I thought that God was against acts of homosexuality, not necessarily being homosexual.

Precisely. No Christian can deny that we are naturally sinful. Anyone who has not naturally held hate in their heart, lustfully looked after others, been prideful, cared only for themself, etc. is a liar. The point is to refrain from carrying actions out. Homosexual lust is the same as heterosexual lust.

So, basically, you can have gay feelings, but just don't do anything with them?

Isn’t temptation a sin? Or is it to give into temptation that’s the actual sin?
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Dec 7 2006, 07:28 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 10:48 PM
Ross
Dec 7 2006, 09:46 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 04:42 PM
I thought that God was against acts of homosexuality, not necessarily being homosexual.

Precisely. No Christian can deny that we are naturally sinful. Anyone who has not naturally held hate in their heart, lustfully looked after others, been prideful, cared only for themself, etc. is a liar. The point is to refrain from carrying actions out. Homosexual lust is the same as heterosexual lust.

So, basically, you can have gay feelings, but just don't do anything with them?

Isn’t temptation a sin? Or is it to give into temptation that’s the actual sin?

To give in ;)

Matthew 4:1-11
 
Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted there by the devil.  For forty days and forty nights he fasted and became very hungry.

    During that time the devil[a] came and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become loaves of bread.”

    But Jesus told him, “No! The Scriptures say,

  ‘People do not live by bread alone,
      but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

    Then the devil took him to the holy city, Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple,  and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say,

  ‘He will order his angels to protect you.
  And they will hold you up with their hands
      so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”

    Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”

    Next the devil took him to the peak of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.  “I will give it all to you,” he said, “if you will kneel down and worship me.”

  “Get out of here, Satan,” Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say,

  ‘You must worship the Lord your God
      and serve only him.’”

  Then the devil went away, and angels came and took care of Jesus.
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Gay people are born that way, and despite whatever the bible says, I don't believe God dislikes homosexuality. If he did, he wouldn't make them that way. ^_^
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Ross
Dec 8 2006, 12:31 AM
Ben
Dec 7 2006, 07:28 PM
punk-emo-rocker
Dec 7 2006, 10:48 PM
Ross
Dec 7 2006, 09:46 PM
Surely Unsure
Dec 7 2006, 04:42 PM
I thought that God was against acts of homosexuality, not necessarily being homosexual.

Precisely. No Christian can deny that we are naturally sinful. Anyone who has not naturally held hate in their heart, lustfully looked after others, been prideful, cared only for themself, etc. is a liar. The point is to refrain from carrying actions out. Homosexual lust is the same as heterosexual lust.

So, basically, you can have gay feelings, but just don't do anything with them?

Isn’t temptation a sin? Or is it to give into temptation that’s the actual sin?

To give in ;)

Matthew 4:1-11
 
Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted there by the devil.  For forty days and forty nights he fasted and became very hungry.

    During that time the devil[a] came and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become loaves of bread.”

    But Jesus told him, “No! The Scriptures say,

   ‘People do not live by bread alone,
      but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

    Then the devil took him to the holy city, Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple,  and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say,

   ‘He will order his angels to protect you.
   And they will hold you up with their hands
      so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”

    Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’”

    Next the devil took him to the peak of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.  “I will give it all to you,” he said, “if you will kneel down and worship me.”

   “Get out of here, Satan,” Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say,

   ‘You must worship the Lord your God
      and serve only him.’”

   Then the devil went away, and angels came and took care of Jesus.

Ok, so god makes you gay, and it's all good. But, if you take part in gay acts, that's where the sin comes in?
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God doesn't make us gay :ermm: God created Adam and Eve perfect. After they fall sin was passed on through birth which means we inherit a naturally sinful state. God didn't choose that for us.
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people really dont care about religon, the real thing they hate gays for is there having sex. If you truly belive its a sin than your brainwashed by others Belief in their religen.

I think iv said somthin like this. what i dont understand is why people like take things like that about religen so seiris. Its not like people are exiceted about going to church any more. i bet if you ask some one how goes to curch because there "christan" and you ask them "what was the lesson in church" they will probaly say somthing like "i dont know" and will make a big deal about gays.

bottom line they dont like the fact there ****in eachother. i have nothin against gays as long as there not checkin me out.
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Ross
Dec 8 2006, 02:11 AM
God doesn't make us gay :ermm: God created Adam and Eve perfect. After they fall sin was passed on through birth which means we inherit a naturally sinful state. God didn't choose that for us.

Gays are gay at birth, theirfor god created them as a gay man.
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Dec 8 2006, 02:11 AM
God doesn't make us gay :ermm: God created Adam and Eve perfect. After they fall sin was passed on through birth which means we inherit a naturally sinful state. God didn't choose that for us.

Gays are gay at birth, theirfor god created them as a gay man.

O_o

How many times do I have to say it. We are not in a sinless state. There was something called the "fall of man" where Adam and Eve turned from God. The earth was cursed and man inherited a naturally sinful state. God didn't do that to us, we did it to ourselves.k
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What is this, god made us gay thing? I'm pretty sure there's no "proof" of it, it's just something gay people started saying. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thats just according to how the Bible used to be written I belive. God doesn't make anyone gay, in order to be gay you have to like someone, and you don't just "fall in love" or "like someone", you have to want it. Thats like love it doesn't hit you you have to WANT IT. I see nothing wrong with whether people are gay or not, its you life live it how you want.
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Dec 7 2006, 09:35 PM
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Dec 8 2006, 02:11 AM
God doesn't make us gay :ermm: God created Adam and Eve perfect. After they fall sin was passed on through birth which means we inherit a naturally sinful state. God didn't choose that for us.

Gays are gay at birth, theirfor god created them as a gay man.

O_o

How many times do I have to say it. We are not in a sinless state. There was something called the "fall of man" where Adam and Eve turned from God. The earth was cursed and man inherited a naturally sinful state. God didn't do that to us, we did it to ourselves.k

;) you believe books eh? so let me guess, you believe movies too? :) you believe xmen I bet XD.

boy + boy = <3
girl + girl = <3
boy + girl = <3
<3 = <3

By the way, :S people don't control who they like or who they love, if you think that then you really really really need to learn more stuff about feelings ^^;.
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Dec 7 2006, 09:43 PM
;) you believe books eh? so let me guess, you believe movies too? :) you believe xmen I bet XD.


Am I supposed to take that seriously?

Oh and:

65 year old man + 12 year old girl = <3
Dad + daughter = <3

It's all love isn't it :D
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Dec 8 2006, 02:35 AM
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Dec 7 2006, 09:28 PM
Ross
Dec 8 2006, 02:11 AM
God doesn't make us gay :ermm: God created Adam and Eve perfect. After they fall sin was passed on through birth which means we inherit a naturally sinful state. God didn't choose that for us.

Gays are gay at birth, theirfor god created them as a gay man.

O_o

How many times do I have to say it. We are not in a sinless state. There was something called the "fall of man" where Adam and Eve turned from God. The earth was cursed and man inherited a naturally sinful state. God didn't do that to us, we did it to ourselves.k

k, can we take this one step at a time?


God creates man, correct?



.R3L
Dec 8 2006, 02:40 AM
What is this, god made us gay thing? I'm pretty sure there's no "proof" of it, it's just something gay people started saying. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Their's no technical proof of god, but that's not the point.
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Yeah you should take it seriously. I think anyone who truly believes in the bible really needs a reality check =], Even my aunt who is probably the person who believes in a religion the most says most of the stuff in the bible is fake. Also, Age is just a number and by the way ^^; there's more then one type of love, so yeah

Dad + daughter = <3

and a 65 year old man (a grandfather lets say) + 12 year old girl (grand child) could = <3

=].
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