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Stop being political correct for 2 mins.
Topic Started: Jul 10 2007, 05:07 PM (1,662 Views)
Phong
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Deathless
Jul 10 2007, 10:44 PM
Political correctness over here (UK) is beyond a joke. I suggest people watch this and then this. I couldn't agree with this guy more.

I only watched 40 seconds and that guy's quite blatantly just racist ;)

I actually think that not offending people is a good thing, and if it means I'm not allowed to call black people porch monkies or call gay people faggots, then that's fine with me..
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Jul 11 2007, 04:18 PM
Deathless
Jul 10 2007, 10:44 PM
Political correctness over here (UK) is beyond a joke. I suggest people watch this and then this. I couldn't agree with this guy more.

I only watched 40 seconds and that guy's quite blatantly just racist ;)

Take the time to watch all of it with an open mind please.

I strongly agree with the guy in those videos, they sum up my thoughts on this topic completely, to be honest.
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As long as someone isn't intentionally hating on someone's race, I do find it funny. If one can't laugh about their own race or stereotype, then it's really their problem and not anyone else's.
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Phong
Jul 11 2007, 03:44 PM
Ok...

Good way to spam, ass.
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Jul 10 2007, 09:09 PM
The problem is that people sue people over such things, kill people over such things, etc.

This.

This wouldn't happened in the old days. Oh no.
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Jul 11 2007, 05:43 PM
TeeSee
Jul 11 2007, 04:18 PM
Deathless
Jul 10 2007, 10:44 PM
Political correctness over here (UK) is beyond a joke. I suggest people watch this and then this. I couldn't agree with this guy more.

I only watched 40 seconds and that guy's quite blatantly just racist ;)

Take the time to watch all of it with an open mind please.

I strongly agree with the guy in those videos, they sum up my thoughts on this topic completely, to be honest.

Ok I watched it all and understand the anger towards suicide bombers, but also think that this man was pretty disrespectful. He did just say that being a muslim is a mental illness and that muslims don't deserve respect. He does know that not all muslims are suicide bombers, right?
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Jul 11 2007, 04:47 PM
As long as someone isn't intentionally hating on someone's race, I do find it funny. If one can't laugh about their own race or stereotype, then it's really their problem and not anyone else's.

I agree here. People really shouldn't be so sensitive. I mean, life is supposed to be fun so yeah laugh at yourself and stuff.
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Reyane-kun
Jul 10 2007, 04:07 PM
Sure I made a racist joke and people are all gasping. It's stupid that the people of a different race is offended and the race I told it to are like laughing. Like I called my black friend a porch monkey because we doing a skit for a video (Never got released :@ ) And we were doing it in the street. So this white lady comes up and goes what is wrong with you. Those up tight no fun people piss me off and I'm glad sXePhile (Author) Made this video.

The Main point is, some people didn't know you were making a video, and that he was your friend.... If they knew that, maybe it would have changed the response.

But the Overall Point is exactly what Astheria said. People Kill Over this stuff. People Die from someone saying what they may think is funny all because the other person didn't.
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Deathless
Jul 11 2007, 01:29 AM
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Jul 11 2007, 02:21 AM
If you are offended by racism, then you are immature. It's as simple as that.

Explain? :hmm:

Because the people who are initially racist are immature themselves, so caring or retaliating is immature itself. And if you care about someone joking around then you're just too uptight about life in general.
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First, can I suggest moving this to Brian Juice, it needs a good topic. Warning: long post ahead.

Political correctness, yes I agree that it is complete and utter crap, people should not be offended over trivial things like that, however there is a line and it is best not to cross it. I am not saying that the state of things now is correct, it should defiantly get less touchy, like the guy in first video "Favorite Stereotype" said, a black man should not be offended if I say he likes chicken but he has the right to be offended if I say something about slavery being okay. I know it's not the best of examples. Wait I have a good one. If you tell me that I go to school on a camel or live in a pyramid, etc. I would laugh it off. Something more serious like 'you have sex with camel' I would probably just make a similar joke about your race/culture. But if some guy walks up to me and accuses me of terrorism just because I'm middle easters, by God I will punch him in the face. No this is not for showing how macho I am, I am trying to show that there are levels. Also, regarding the terrorist thing, I find "please don't blow me up" extremely funny. I would only get pissed if someone was serious about things like that.

OcelotJay, you are politely asking Muslim women to stop covering their face, I think you are wrong. You should bloody demand they do it, for all the reasons stated in "Am I racist" and a few other reasons as well. It is not in our religion, our proper religion, I don't care what you're stoned cleric says, that women should cover their faces. All God demands is modesty, non tight jeans, long sleeves and a head scarf are perfectly alright.

I would like to state that the the guy from the second and third videos, among other things, is a hypocrite. Indeed, if I had watched his second video only I would agree with every word he said, as he comes off very tolerant and understanding. Well the truth is, he seems that way because he is only addressing one point from his previous video, one of the few he was right about. Now let's examine some of the things this 'tolerant' man said in his first video.

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Beliefs derived from the ramblings of an ancient desert nomad with a psychological disorder

Way to show you're tolerance, arsehole. Please, continue insulting my key religious icons.

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It's holy book orders it's followers to conquer the world and convert everyone to foloow their God.

Yes, and where did you get that from, kind sir? Please show references because I have never read anything like that in my copy of the Qur'an.

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If Islam had it's way, elections would be a thing of the past and the rest of us would be living in the past

I see to forget the soura that states "Thou shall not commit democracy".

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Despite the guarantee of all those luscious virgins waiting for them

A bloody myth as I have to state for the nth time. You go to heaven, you get what you want, simple. You want 72 virgins? You go them? You want a car, have one mate. A PS8 you say? Sure! That's why they call it heaven. And most suicide bombers don't go to heaven.

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Presumably they will be good Islamic virgins who will have fathers, brothers and cousins who will protect them by killing anyone who makes eye contact with them.

That's right mate, some guy looked at my mother yesterday so I axe murdered him. What the **** are you on about. Please look up fanatics.
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While I agree this is a good topic, I feel it's sort of a boring one. Maybe because I've been complaining about being PC more than usual the past few weeks and most of us seem to be in agreement?

I'd sing a song called "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist" but everyone knows I wouldn't actually be singing it, I'd just be copying the lyrics. And how lame is that?
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OcelotJay
Jul 11 2007, 12:07 AM
Deathless
Jul 10 2007, 10:44 PM
Political correctness over here (UK) is beyond a joke. I suggest people watch this and then this. I couldn't agree with this guy more.

Very true. I'm not sure which annoys me more: playing the [ethnicity/minority category] card or people who kowtow to it. Both are equally bad I suppose since both encourage it. Personally I refuse to walk on the proverbial egg shells. Sensitivity exists to such degrees that it's pretty difficult not to offend somebody and it's not going to kill you. Well... :ermm:

Political correctness is one of the worst ideas conjured up by modern society. What was wrong with common sense, other than it's apparent lacking? While in theory it's supposed to make interaction between ethnicities and minorities easier, in reality it merely attempts to reduce us to spouting the same acceptable linear words. In an interview my sexuality somehow popped up. Now it's one of the many areas that bosses aren't really allowed to pry into and he was being friendly enough but when he attempted to define it he struggled. I had to interject and say "gay"; I think he was on the verge of almost whispering homosexual like he was asking for sexual favours or something similarly illicit. o_O It really was rather silly.

Good find too, Deathless. I think he rather points out the obvious problems we have in this country. Having said that, I agree with SiaGrath's remarks that there's one point I quite disagree with. I supported Jack Straw when he pointed out that the female Muslim garb (apologies but the correct name for it has escaped my head) which covers the face isn't always ideal - contrary to what the papers reported, he didn't demand the woman remove it, merely asked, a perfectly polite and acceptable thing to do. It's a simple fact that human interaction relies quite heavily on body language and, more importantly, paralanguage. Both require to be able to see one's face; hand gestures and posture are only a portion and if you can't see someone's face, the truth is that for many it's quite uncomfortable. In Britain especially we have had to deal with masks being used in violence so it's understandable why many are quite twitchy about it. I do believe however there's no reason to force these women not to wear them and I think his comment -
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"I don't care what your race is, if you're walking around in public with your face covered up dressed like a giant pepperpot, then I think you've got something wrong with you"
- was quite out of line. That's not a criticism about social interaction problems, that's assuming that the individual has issues which is an unfounded generalisation and sounded like some childish retort. :/ I do agree though that the situation is often blown out of proportion.

I couldn't agree more.
Oh, and those were some good videos guys.
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Yes I loved the "Problem with Islam video"...

Thanks for taking the time to read my post guys, at least I know I didn't waste my post on nothing.
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TeeSee
Jul 11 2007, 06:05 PM
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Jul 11 2007, 05:43 PM
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Jul 11 2007, 04:18 PM
Deathless
Jul 10 2007, 10:44 PM
Political correctness over here (UK) is beyond a joke. I suggest people watch this and then this. I couldn't agree with this guy more.

I only watched 40 seconds and that guy's quite blatantly just racist ;)

Take the time to watch all of it with an open mind please.

I strongly agree with the guy in those videos, they sum up my thoughts on this topic completely, to be honest.

Ok I watched it all and understand the anger towards suicide bombers, but also think that this man was pretty disrespectful. He did just say that being a muslim is a mental illness and that muslims don't deserve respect. He does know that not all muslims are suicide bombers, right?

I understand and can see what you're saying, but he also talks about how the problem is with a peace orientated religion that has so many deaths attributed to it. He doesn't insult Muslims per se, just the idiots who think the only way to get a point across is to bomb something, or that killing your daughter for dishonouring the family is the right thing to do. He mentions later on how intelligent Muslims have written and agreed with him, you have to understand he's not taking personal jabs at every Muslim in the world, just pointing out flaws with the religion.

I agree with many of the points in your post, by the way, Ahmed. Nice post.
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