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11 Students Plotted To Kill Third-Grade Teacher.
Topic Started: Apr 23 2008, 08:39 PM (790 Views)
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11 Students Plotted To Kill Third-Grade Teacher
Student Had Job To Clean Blood, Says Teacher's Relative

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One of the teacher's relatives said each child at Center Elementary School in Waycross had a job to do, including one assigned to wipe up the blood.


POSTED: 10:40 pm EDT March 31, 2008
UPDATED: 7:53 am EDT April 1, 2008

WAYCROSS, Ga. -- Eleven students got together and plotted to kill their teacher, even going so far as to bring handcuffs and a knife to school, Waycross police said.



One of the teacher's relatives said each child at Center Elementary School in Waycross had a job to do, including one assigned to wipe up the blood.

The plot unraveled over the weekend when a student tipped off police, Local 6 reported.

School officials said they never imagined that some of the 8- and 9-year-olds boys and girls at the school would think of bringing physical harm to a teacher, WJXT reported.

"A plan had been developed amongst several of our third-grade students to allegedly do harm to their teacher," said Theresa Martin, of Ware County Schools. "It's shocking that they would think of this at their young age. I think that is probably the most shocking part for all of us," Martin said.

In addition to the knife being found, the school officials said other students had duct tape, handcuffs, ribbon and a heavy crystal paperweight.

The police chief in Waycross said that he believes the plan may have been developed because one of the students was punished with some sort of time out. However, that theory remains under investigation.

"I can't believe that -- because he's a third-grader. You know, I cannot believe that. Especially, for here," said parent Doris Rowland.

The children could face expulsion and criminal charges pending the investigation.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

http://www.local6.com/news/15757528/detail.html


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What do we blame for this? The teacher? The parents? The students? Or kids just no longer being kids? Could we blame the media?
*Sigh* It's unthinkable. I remember asserting on more than one occasion that society isn't going to the dogs, we just can't remember past generations because we weren't there, but recently I've been becoming more and more convinced that we really need to take a leaf out of the books of past generations cos I just can't see something like this happening 15-20 years ago.
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WTF? How could 8 and 9 year olds actually dream of doing this? Oh my god... If they are like this when they are children imagine what they'll be when they grow up. These kids need some sense knocked into them.
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Old news is old.
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Phazix
Apr 24 2008, 10:57 AM
Old news is old.

Date doesn't matter.
I'm not posting it as breaking news. I'm posting it to discuss society's degression.
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hah, my friend was telling me about this a week or 2 ago. Kinda creepy actually
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xBifnepasu
Apr 23 2008, 08:00 PM
Phazix
Apr 24 2008, 10:57 AM
Old news is old.

Date doesn't matter.
I'm not posting it as breaking news. I'm posting it to discuss society's degression.

Like there was never Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, the KKK, and oppression of women and non-whites ever, right? No violence, no lynching, hate, none whatsoever! No torture, mass murder, or terrorism in the past! That's such an asinine idea!
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Wolt
Apr 24 2008, 12:01 PM
xBifnepasu
Apr 23 2008, 08:00 PM
Phazix
Apr 24 2008, 10:57 AM
Old news is old.

Date doesn't matter.
I'm not posting it as breaking news. I'm posting it to discuss society's degression.

Like there was never Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, the KKK, and oppression of women and non-whites ever, right? No violence, no lynching, hate, none whatsoever! No torture, mass murder, or terrorism in the past! That's such an asinine idea!

How is this relevent and when have I denied these things?
This is on a lot smaller of a scale. I'm talking about society as a whole's disgretion, not small sections with extreme views.
I never said there was no lynching, hate etc in the past, I agree that notion is asinine. Please, don't put words in my mouth.
I'm talking about the desensitisation of everyday people, not of the existence of groups with political agendas. ;)
Must I write "In context" to clarify for you, or are you just being a smartass?
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Wolt
Apr 23 2008, 08:01 PM
xBifnepasu
Apr 23 2008, 08:00 PM
Phazix
Apr 24 2008, 10:57 AM
Old news is old.

Date doesn't matter.
I'm not posting it as breaking news. I'm posting it to discuss society's degression.

Like there was never Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, the KKK, and oppression of women and non-whites ever, right? No violence, no lynching, hate, none whatsoever! No torture, mass murder, or terrorism in the past! That's such an asinine idea!

What the hell are you talking about? Take your jackass sarcastic remarks elsewhere.
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What shocks me the most, is that you usually hear a story about this with one or possibly two kids who are for whatever reason just these demented people plotting to do these evil things, but this was ELEVEN KIDS! A bunch of 8 year olds all participating in this. Usually when stuff like this happens, I feel like we have to look at the parents... but in a case like this... I just don't even know.

Craziness.

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Wolt
Apr 23 2008, 08:01 PM
xBifnepasu
Apr 23 2008, 08:00 PM
Phazix
Apr 24 2008, 10:57 AM
Old news is old.

Date doesn't matter.
I'm not posting it as breaking news. I'm posting it to discuss society's degression.

Like there was never Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, the KKK, and oppression of women and non-whites ever, right? No violence, no lynching, hate, none whatsoever! No torture, mass murder, or terrorism in the past! That's such an asinine idea!

What the hell are you talking about? Take your jackass sarcastic remarks elsewhere.


Why is everybody overreacting so much? All he did was point out that an event like this doesn't necessarily tell us that society is digressing in the way that the topic starter has insinuated. What he's talking about is perfectly relevant. The topic starter said he was talking about "everyday people", yet most of the people that fall involved in the events Wolt described were everyday people in special circumstances.

It's easily to look at isolated situations like the one we're talking about now and use it as evidence of an overall trend. We always have that mentality of "Back in my day... things were never this bad!" For whatever reason, I think we tend to remember our earlier years more fondly, and so as a result, when bad things happen in our present, we somehow think things are worse now than they were before... and that's not necessarily so.
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^ Yep. It's approximately a third of the class, no?
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xBifnepasu
Apr 23 2008, 09:08 PM
^ Yep. It's approximately a third of the class, no?

Yeah, maybe even more. I know that up to a certain grade out here in California, a class can only have up to 20 kids at a time. I don't know what it's like in Georgia, but I imagine that in any classroom with kids that young... you've definiately not got more than 30-35 kids in a class.
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This is what America is coming to. We have very depraved people raising children. And even normal people raising them well, but they are exposed to horrific things via the media. There's also that whole "Ultimate Fighting for Kids" crap. Having your six-year olds beat each other up is not cool.

Humanity in America is depraved. I can't speak for other parts of the world, but in America... So many people are so pathetic. There was a killing in the city by me just the other day. And not many days before that, a woman was found dead. Her kids missing, and the husband, who she had an order of protection against, was missing.


It's sad what people do to each other. Somewhere along the line, long ago probably, we lost the ability to treat others with the same basic respect any human being deserves, what we ourselves want. I do my best to not think of what the future will be like if it keeps going like this. It's really saddening.

EDIT: Ah, one thing. I'm not saying that EVERY SINGLE PERSON in America is a horrible person. There are many wonderful people here, and all over the world. I'm simply pointing out that more and more people, even if it isn't a majority or anything, are acting more and more poorly, being more violent, and just making fools of themselves and giving humanity in general a very bad name. There are many stories of wonderful people, and most people that I know are great. I'm just pointing out that the number of people doing bad stuff LATELY seems to be rising, though I'm aware that it goes through ups and downs every so often. We just seem to be in one of the up parts of the cycle right now.
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Apr 23 2008, 10:06 PM
What shocks me the most, is that you usually hear a story about this with one or possibly two kids who are for whatever reason just these demented people plotting to do these evil things, but this was ELEVEN KIDS! A bunch of 8 year olds all participating in this. Usually when stuff like this happens, I feel like we have to look at the parents... but in a case like this... I just don't even know.

Craziness.

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Wolt
Apr 23 2008, 08:01 PM
xBifnepasu
Apr 23 2008, 08:00 PM
Phazix
Apr 24 2008, 10:57 AM
Old news is old.

Date doesn't matter.
I'm not posting it as breaking news. I'm posting it to discuss society's degression.

Like there was never Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, the KKK, and oppression of women and non-whites ever, right? No violence, no lynching, hate, none whatsoever! No torture, mass murder, or terrorism in the past! That's such an asinine idea!

What the hell are you talking about? Take your jackass sarcastic remarks elsewhere.


Why is everybody overreacting so much? All he did was point out that an event like this doesn't necessarily tell us that society is digressing in the way that the topic starter has insinuated. What he's talking about is perfectly relevant. The topic starter said he was talking about "everyday people", yet most of the people that fall involved in the events Wolt described were everyday people in special circumstances.

It's easily to look at isolated situations like the one we're talking about now and use it as evidence of an overall trend. We always have that mentality of "Back in my day... things were never this bad!" For whatever reason, I think we tend to remember our earlier years more fondly, and so as a result, when bad things happen in our present, we somehow think things are worse now than they were before... and that's not necessarily so.

He never said it was better back in the day. But "everyday" people are getting worse. I do not really see how you can deny that.
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I don't see why you insist that everyday people are getting worse. People in the KKK were also regular, everyday people.
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Apr 24 2008, 05:18 AM
This is what America is coming to. We have very depraved people raising children. And even normal people raising them well, but they are exposed to horrific things via the media. There's also that whole "Ultimate Fighting for Kids" crap. Having your six-year olds beat each other up is not cool.

Humanity in America is depraved. I can't speak for other parts of the world, but in America... So many people are so pathetic. There was a killing in the city by me just the other day. And not many days before that, a woman was found dead. Her kids missing, and the husband, who she had an order of protection against, was missing.


It's sad what people do to each other. Somewhere along the line, long ago probably, we lost the ability to treat others with the same basic respect any human being deserves, what we ourselves want. I do my best to not think of what the future will be like if it keeps going like this. It's really saddening.

EDIT: Ah, one thing. I'm not saying that EVERY SINGLE PERSON in America is a horrible person. There are many wonderful people here, and all over the world. I'm simply pointing out that more and more people, even if it isn't a majority or anything, are acting more and more poorly, being more violent, and just making fools of themselves and giving humanity in general a very bad name. There are many stories of wonderful people, and most people that I know are great. I'm just pointing out that the number of people doing bad stuff LATELY seems to be rising, though I'm aware that it goes through ups and downs every so often. We just seem to be in one of the up parts of the cycle right now.

That's Thai Boxing and has got nothing to do with this article. :P However, what I want to know is, where would these children have had the knowledge to do such a thing? You can all blame the media but I blame the parents on exposing them to such media. It's dreadful and it isn't like you can lock these kids up, they only copy what they see on the television and in video games. :/
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